Differentiation can transform both your brand AND your internal culture.

For over 40 years, Barry LaBov has helped iconic companies like Harley-Davidson, Audi, and The Macallan uncover the magic that sets them apart - and now he’s bringing those lessons to the nonprofit sector.

Barry walks us through his 5-step “brand re-engineering” process, which starts with a profound question: "What should we NOT change?"

You’ll hear why naming your unique approach is critical, how to avoid the trap of generic mission statements, and why launching your brand refresh should start with your most important audience: your team and supporters.

These learnings from Barry's work at LABOV Marketing Communications and Training offer powerful parallels for nonprofits seeking emotional connection with supporters, and I just know this episode will challenge you to sharpen your language, simplify your message, and lead with confidence!

Resources & Links

Connect with Barry on LinkedIn and learn more about LABOV on their website. Barry also has a book, The Power of Differentiation.

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What if your nonprofit could grow its impact by 5x, WITHOUT increasing staff or burning out your team? That’s exactly what Greg Harrell-Edge did during his tenure as Executive Director of CoachArt. And you’d never believe that a mindset shift ultimately led to their 37% year-over-year increase in impact, sustained over five years.

Greg shares how a single board retreat sparked a movement within the organization, and why traditional models of nonprofit growth no longer serve today’s landscape. He also reveals how he created a unique spin on monthly giving by forming online advisory boards and inviting donors to contribute not just funds, but also their expertise.

Now, Greg is channeling his hard-won insights into the Proimpact Project, a content and community hub built to help Executive Directors embrace modern growth strategies. You’ll hear practical frameworks (like his 3x 3y napkin test), fresh takes on donor engagement, and ideas for building a movement.

Resources & Links

Learn more about the Proimpact Project on their website and connect with Greg on LinkedIn.

Greg shares his TEDx talk, An Impact-First Way to Think About Charity, on his LinkedIn.

Check out one of Greg’s favorite books, Obsessed: Building a Brand People Love from Day One, by Emily Heyward.

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Lisa Steven never imagined her journey as a teen mom would lead to founding an award-winning nonprofit that transforms the lives of thousands of young mothers. Yet that's exactly what happened.

With over 28 years leading Hope House Colorado (which now operates with a $4.7M annual budget AND two debt-free buildings), Lisa reveals how saying “yes” to telling her story reshaped her organization’s future.

You’ll hear the behind-the-scenes of the 6-year journey to publish her book, A Place to Belong, the fundraising magic that made it happen (including a $25,000 gift from a longtime champion!), and how strategic PR efforts are opening doors for new partnerships, speaking engagements, and national expansion.

Lisa and I also get transparent about the challenges of balancing leadership and creative work, imposter syndrome, the ripple effects of podcast interviews, and why hybrid publishing offers unexpected freedom.

Resources & Links

Learn more about Hope House Colorado on their website and their podcast, Life (Re)viewed, and connect with Lisa Steven on LinkedIn.

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