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Auteur(s): Katayune Kaeni Psy.D. PMH-C
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Posptartum Depression is real. And it's only part of the story. We dig in to ALL of the stuff that no one tells you about, but you NEED to know. Dr. Kat, Psychologist and specialist in perinatal mental health, interviews moms, dads, experts and advocates about how to cope, manage and recover from perinatal mood and anxiety disorders. We talk about postpartum depression, postpartum anxiety and SO MUCH MORE! We get real. We get honest. We put on our stigma crushing boots and address the realities of the transition to motherhood and parenthood. Learn about it before you find out about it the hard way! You don't have to suffer! www.momandmind.com Hygiène et mode de vie sain Psychologie Psychologie et santé mentale Relations Éducation des enfants
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  • 435: Complex Conversations: Using Compassionate Communication in Perinatal Care
    Aug 11 2025
    Today’s episode focuses on patients who receive devastating news during the perinatal period. Unfortunately, this scenario is all too common, and complexities are affecting both the patient and the medical provider, most notably the delicate balance of professionalism, compassion, and humanity. Our conversation explores the psychological impacts and ways of handling these situations. Dr. Christiane Manzella is a senior licensed psychologist at the Seleni Institute, a nonprofit organization providing comprehensive reproductive and maternal mental health services. She specializes in working with individuals navigating bereavement, trauma, fertility challenges, miscarriages, late-term loss, stillbirth, termination for medical reasons, child loss, and life transitions. Her purposeful and caring manner helps her patients recover and navigate these complex situations. Dr. Babalola (Femi) Jinadu is a board-certified OB-GYN with over a decade of experience in women’s health. He earned his medical degree from the New York College of Osteopathic Medicine and completed his residency at Jersey City Medical Center. He currently practices medicine in northern New Jersey, specializing in comprehensive obstetric and gynecological care. He is affiliated with Holy Name Hospital in addition to the Hackensack Meridian Health and Atlantic Health networks. Dr. Jinadu has been featured on the Hot and Bothered Podcast, discussing the economic impact of women’s health issues. He serves on the boards of the New Jersey Partnership for Maternal Health and Seleni, a nonprofit focused on maternal mental healthcare and clinician education. His dedication to patient care and medical education highlights his commitment to advancing women’s health. Show Highlights: Dr. Manzella’s perspective on giving patients the bad news that becomes a “flashbulb moment” in their lives, based on how they are cared for Dr. Jinadu’s perspective on delivering the very best news—and the very worst news Understanding that people connect with different doctors in different ways, especially when there has been a tragic loss Establishing trust and rapport with compassion and understanding A definite shift in medical care to emphasize the hospitality aspect of patient care, rather than simply delivering data and treatment options Mental health IS healthcare. The long-term effects of perinatal bad news and the loss of hopes and dreams Reaching out with humanity as a physician in pivotal moments Dr. Jinadu’s thoughts about the impact of loss on a partner Dr. Manzella’s work with couples in grief and loss A patient’s perspective on how they wish to be treated in grief and loss The doctors’ perspectives on patients using AI, Google, and social media for medical care Key takeaways from Dr. Manzella and Dr. Jinadu Resources: Connect with Seleni, Seleni Instagram, Dr. Jinadu Instagram, Dr. Jinadu Creative Tyde, and Dr. Jinadu LinkedIn Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit cdph.ca.gov Please find resources in English and Spanish at Postpartum Support International, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services. You can also follow PSI on social media: Instagram, Facebook, and most other platforms Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course. Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, email me about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    47 min
  • 434: Behind The Sessions: Re Release - Breastfeeding, D-MER and Maternal Mental Health
    Aug 7 2025
    You may think that postpartum depression covers all aspects of perinatal mental health issues that new mothers face. The fact is that there are other kinds of mood changes, some that are talked about and some that are relatively unknown and uncommon. Today’s show focuses on one specific problem that some mothers experience: it’s called D-Mer, which stands for Dysphoric Milk Ejection Reflex. Heidi Koss, MA, LMHC, is a psychotherapist in private practice in Redmond, WA. She specializes in perinatal (pregnancy and postpartum) mood disorders, birth trauma, sexual abuse, and parent adjustment issues. Heidi has been the WA State Coordinator for Postpartum Support International ⁠www.postpartum.net⁠, and has volunteered for over 20 years with Perinatal Support Washington ⁠www.perinatalsupport.org⁠. She served as past board member for PATTCh – the Prevention and Treatment of Traumatic Childbirth, ⁠www.pattch.org⁠. Heidi is active leading trainings for clinicians on appropriate assessment and treatment options for perinatal mood disorders and birth trauma. She leads monthly clinical consult groups mentoring mental health care providers to develop their competency and expertise in perinatal mental health issues. Heidi was a co-founder of the Northwest Association for Postpartum Support (NAPS, ⁠www.napsdoulas.com⁠) a postpartum doula organization as well as the recipient of the Doulas of North America (DONA) Penny Simkin Doula Spirit and Mentorship Award. Prior to her psychotherapy career, Heidi was a Postpartum Doula and Certified Lactation Educator for 12 years. Show Highlights: Heidi’s work as a mother and perinatal mental health therapist and lactation educator: ”Helping moms with mind, body, and breast” Why D-Mer is not often talked about and often misunderstood What D-Mer is: Dysphoric Milk Ejection Reflex. It occurs when milk onset/letdown happens and lasts a few seconds or minutes D-Mer is a strange emotional phenomenon with negative emotions of sadness, dread, despair, nervousness, anxiety, and irritability D-Mer can be severe, with fleeting suicidal thoughts and urges for self-harm The biochemical connection is with two hormones, dopamine and oxytocin, in which they “go rogue,” misfire, or become overactive No studies have shown who is more predisposed to experience D-Mer For some women, D-Mer symptoms ease as the baby ages, but some have no change until weaning D-Mer symptoms might be harder to treat and control in women who already have a diagnosed anxiety or depression disorder What D-Mer is NOT: nausea, postpartum depression, anxiety, breastfeeding aversion---”It’s NOT the mom’s fault.” The best treatment is to educate women about D-Mer How some women can “talk themselves through” D-Mer episodes Ideas for easing symptoms include rewiring the stress hormones, making positive associations with breastfeeding, and positive touch (massage) General good habits for life will ease D-Mer symptoms, like mindfulness, meditation, good sleep and self-care, reduced stress, and managing blood sugar fluctuations To target dopamine, nursing locations should be aesthetically pleasing to make a pleasant mental and physical experience for the mother Some women find D-Mer intolerable and decide to wean, while some can deal with the symptoms and continue to breastfeed Wellbutrin works for some women to ease the symptoms How to find support: Find a lactation consultant and pursue therapy with a perinatal mental health therapist Resources: ⁠www.d-mer.org⁠ ⁠www.heidikoss.com⁠ Email Heidi: ⁠heidi@heidikoss.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    37 min
  • 433: Then Comes Baby: An Honest Conversation About Birth, Postpartum, and the Complex Transition to Parenthood with Dr. Jessica Vernon, OB/GYN
    Aug 4 2025
    Today’s guest returns to the podcast with her passion for perinatal mental health, and I’m honored to share our conversation with you about her work and her new book, which offers holistic and realistic support for new parents. We cover topics related to birth and postpartum with her real and honest perspective as an Ob/Gyn. Join us! Dr. Jessica Vernon, PMH-C, is a board-certified OB/GYN who has cared for and supported thousands of people throughout their reproductive journeys during the past 15 years. She is the Associate Medical Director and the Director of Mental Health at Oula, a midwifery-based women’s health startup in New York City. As a mom of two, she brings her lived experience in the transition to parenthood to her work, along with a deep passion for providing holistic, people-centered, culturally humble care. Dr. Jessica has developed programs to increase access to perinatal mental health care and improve health equity. She has received professional recognition and been quoted in the media for her work and expertise in the field, as well as for her openness in sharing her story. She serves on the board of directors for Postpartum Support International and is the author of Then Comes Baby: An Honest Conversation About Birth, Postpartum, and the Complex Transition to Parenthood. Show Highlights: An integration of a passion for perinatal mental health, motherhood, and her practice as an OB/GYN The OB/GYN’s role in treating “uncomplicated” postpartum anxiety and depression Dr. Jessica’s current role in collaboration with midwives The decision to write Then Comes Baby The biggest postpartum struggles for new parents Learning to use language with patients that allows them to accept their new feelings and emotions The art of communication and sitting with people–when it’s not taught in medical school Meeting diverse people where they are and with the understanding they need, not with ONE strict protocol for everyone Overcoming cultural factors in transitioning to parenthood and accepting help Matrescence: the changes and shifts in the transition into motherhood An overview of the topics and structure of Dr. Jessica’s book, Then Comes Baby In postpartum, it’s essential to take a pause until your body is ready to resume normal activities. Dr. Jessica’s hopes for those who read her book Resources: Connect with Dr. Jessica Vernon: Website, Instagram, and Then Comes Baby: An Honest Conversation About Birth, Postpartum, and the Complex Transition to Parenthood. Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit cdph.ca.gov Please find resources in English and Spanish at Postpartum Support International, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services. You can also follow PSI on social media: Instagram, Facebook, and most other platforms Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course. Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, email me about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    50 min
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