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Off the Chair

Off the Chair

Auteur(s): Dr. Colleen Long Dr. Jennifer Politis and Erika Bugaj LICSW
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In a world where a nail artist can out-earn a licensed therapist, behavioral health professionals have no choice but to get scrappy, color outside the lines, and start writing our own rules. The old path—graduate school, licensure, paneled with insurance, packed calendar of 1:1s—is broken. It’s time for a new blueprint. That’s where Off the Chair comes in. We’re not just talking about surviving the grind, we’re exploring radically different ways to thrive. From building passive income streams to launching scalable service lines, we dive into business models that break the mold. We cover how modern technology; AI, digital products, automation, and online communities—can even help clinicians step out of the therapy chair and into a more expansive, creative, and financially free version of practice. Off the Chair is the no-BS podcast for therapists ready to break out of burnout, reclaim their income, and build values-driven businesses beyond the therapy room. Hosted by Dr. Colleen Long, Dr. Jennifer Politis, and Erika Bugaj, LICSW—three clinician-entrepreneurs who’ve built, broken, and rebuilt thriving mental health companies—this show brings you weekly conversations on what it really takes to succeed in today’s broken behavioral health system. Whether you're a growth-minded psychologist, a private practice owner, or a therapist wondering how to scale without selling your soul, Off the Chair is your roadmap to redefining what success looks like in mental healthcare. What You’ll Learn - Business & Practice Management: Navigate the operations side of private practice with insight into EMRs, scheduling workflows, profitability pivots, and systems that scale. - Hiring & Leadership: From managing your first intern to leading multi-state teams, get real-world advice on creating aligned, sustainable teams (and firing fast when it’s not a fit). - Financial Freedom for Clinicians: Understand compensation models, create recurring revenue streams, and stop trading time for money—all without compromising your ethics. - Mental Health Industry Reform: Challenge the status quo with honest dialogue on insurance gatekeeping, clinician burnout, and what it takes to build a more human-centered system. - Personal Resilience & Growth: Behind every spreadsheet is a dark night of the soul. We talk mindset, mission drift, and how to stay motivated when the math doesn’t math. - Overcoming Challenges: The podcast addresses common challenges faced by therapists, such as negative reviews, legal threats, and the fear of failure, offering strategies for navigating these obstacles. Overall, Off the Chair aims to empower clinicians to: Become more effective leaders and managers. Build strong, efficient, and profitable practices. Enhance their personal well-being and achieve a fulfilling career. Stay ahead of the curve in a constantly evolving industry. Why Listen? Off the Chair isn’t just about the logistics of running a practice—it’s about reclaiming your creativity, your autonomy, and your voice as a leader. No jargon, no perfectionism. Just vulnerable, strategic conversations that meet you in the messy middle. New episodes drop every Tuesday. Connect with us! Podcast Website: www.offthechair.com Colleen Long, Psy.D. Website: www.claritypsychologicaltesting.com LinkedIn: Dr. Colleen Long Jennifer Politis, PhD, LPC Website: www.wellnesscounselingBC.com Instagram: @wellnesscounselingnj TikTok: @wellnesscounseling LinkedIn: Jennifer Politis Erika Bugaj, MA, MSW, LICSW Website: www.dandelioncounselingcare.com Instagram: @dandelioncounselingcare LinkedIn: Erika BugajCopyright 2025 Dr. Colleen Long, Dr. Jennifer Politis, and Erika Bugaj, LICSW Gestion et leadership Hygiène et mode de vie sain Psychologie Psychologie et santé mentale Économie
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  • The Realities of Being a Mom Boss
    Sep 2 2025

    Being a mom therapist means wearing more hats than most people can imagine - and switching between them in the blink of an eye.

    In this raw and real episode, we talk candidly about balancing motherhood and career, and how we manage the mental load without completely burning out.

    We dig deep into the lived experience of being a mom therapist in today’s “do it all” culture - and we don’t hold back. From awkward Zoom calls with kids in the background to the cost (financial and emotional) of showing up at your kid’s 10am school play, this is what balancing motherhood and career actually looks like behind the scenes.

    We talk about:

    • The crushing mental load of modern motherhood - and how working mom burnout sneaks in, even when you love your job
    • The real cost of that school play (yep, we calculated it) - and why it’s so hard for a mom therapist to make time for both clients and class parties
    • What “identity whiplash” feels like when you're code-switching between CEO, clinician, and carpool driver
    • Creative ways we’re redefining “quality time” with our kids without sacrificing the businesses we’ve built
    • How we recognize the signs of therapist burnout - and the micro-adjustments we make to protect our energy and our kids

    Whether you're crying in your car between sessions or building your dream mental health business after bedtime, this episode will make you feel seen, supported, and a little less alone.

    WATCH THE FULL VIDEO EPISODE HERE!


    Connect with us!

    Podcast Website: www.offthechair.com

    Colleen Long, Psy.D.

    Website: www.claritypsychologicaltesting.com

    LinkedIn: Dr. Colleen Long

    Jennifer Politis, PhD, LPC

    Website: www.wellnesscounselingBC.com

    Instagram: @wellnesscounselingnj

    TikTok: @wellnesscounseling

    LinkedIn: Jennifer Politis

    Erika Bugaj, MA, MSW, LICSW

    Website: www.dandelioncounselingcare.com

    Instagram: @dandelioncounselingcare

    LinkedIn: Erika Bugaj


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    46 min
  • Scale, Sell, or Stay: How to Know What’s Next for Your Practice
    Aug 26 2025

    When the walls feel tighter than ever, that crossroads of deciding to scale, sell, or stay is real - and confusing.

    In this episode, we unpack the deeply personal, strategic, and emotional decision every practice owner faces: whether to scale therapy, sell, or stay - and how aligned practice management can help you make the right call for your life and your business.

    We share the truth about what happens when your practice feels too big to manage but too valuable to walk away from. We talk about what it means to evolve as a clinician-turned-CEO, how to lead with clarity instead of burnout, and how strong clinic practice management can shift the entire trajectory of your career.

    In this episode, we explore:

    • Why “freedom” isn’t just about income or time - and how to know if your practice is helping or hurting both
    • The signs it's time to scale therapy, shift your model, or step away entirely - and how to trust yourself through the process
    • How poor practice management can make scaling impossible - and what changes when your systems finally match your growth
    • What we’ve learned from staying too long, scaling too fast, or selling too soon - and why we don’t believe in “one right answer”
    • How our therapist identities have evolved - and how being a CEO therapist doesn’t mean abandoning your clinical heart


    Feeling stuck between craving growth and needing rest? You’re not alone - and you don’t have to decide blindly. Join us for an honest look at what’s possible when you scale therapy practices with intention, alignment, and just a little more permission to change your mind.

    WATCH THE FULL VIDEO EPISODE HERE!


    Connect with us!

    Podcast Website: www.offthechair.com

    Colleen Long, Psy.D.

    Website: www.claritypsychologicaltesting.com

    LinkedIn: Dr. Colleen Long

    Jennifer Politis, PhD, LPC

    Website: www.wellnesscounselingBC.com

    Instagram: @wellnesscounselingnj

    TikTok: @wellnesscounseling

    LinkedIn: Jennifer Politis

    Erika Bugaj, MA, MSW, LICSW

    Website: www.dandelioncounselingcare.com

    Instagram: @dandelioncounselingcare

    LinkedIn: Erika Bugaj

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    54 min
  • Scaling Without Selling Your Soul: Building a Business That Loves You Back
    Aug 19 2025

    Therapist burnout doesn’t start with big breakdowns - it starts with tiny betrayals of your time, your energy, and your vision.

    In this episode, we get real about the emotional toll when you scale therapy practices, the identity shifts that come with leadership, and how to build a business that actually loves you back.

    We don’t just talk about how to scale therapy practices - we unpack what it means to scale with integrity, values, and your own well-being intact. If you're craving more ease in your practice management while staying deeply connected to your mission, this conversation is for you.

    In this episode, we explore:

    • How therapist burnout creeps in - even when your business looks successful on paper
    • What we wish someone told us before stepping into leadership and practice management
    • How to scale therapy offerings without abandoning your clinical identity or burning out
    • Why alternative careers for therapists don’t always mean leaving therapy - and what that path can look like
    • The moment we each realized our business no longer felt like ours - and what we did to take it back

    Whether you’re managing a growing caseload, hiring your first employee, or questioning if this path still fits - this episode will help you gut-check your growth strategy and reconnect with the parts of you that got lost along the way.

    WATCH THE FULL VIDEO EPISODE HERE!


    Connect with us!

    Podcast Website: www.offthechair.com

    Colleen Long, Psy.D.

    Website: www.claritypsychologicaltesting.com

    LinkedIn: Dr. Colleen Long

    Jennifer Politis, PhD, LPC

    Website: www.wellnesscounselingBC.com

    Instagram: @wellnesscounselingnj

    TikTok: @wellnesscounseling

    LinkedIn: Jennifer Politis

    Erika Bugaj, MA, MSW, LICSW

    Website: www.dandelioncounselingcare.com

    Instagram: @dandelioncounselingcare

    LinkedIn: Erika Bugaj

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    1 h et 7 min
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