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On the Brink with Andi Simon

On the Brink with Andi Simon

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 On The Brink is a podcast where the goal is to help you better "see, feel and think" about your business, your job, your personal life and your purpose. There will be great interviews and conversations with people who are deeply involved in change—consultants, change agents, managers transforming their teams, entrepreneurs just starting out and CEOs running well-established companies. Développement commercial et entrepreneuriat Entrepreneurship Gestion et leadership Économie
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  • Sana Ali: A Woman Entrepreneur builds Trust and Empathy

    Sana Ali: A Woman Entrepreneur builds Trust and Empathy
    Sep 15 2025
    In this episode of On the Brink with Andi Simon, Dr. Andi Simon welcomes a remarkable young entrepreneur, Sana Ali, whose story is as surprising as it is inspiring. Just twelve years old, Sana has already built a reputation as a digital strategist helping coaches, consultants, and creators transform their online engagement into real business results. Her journey from Karachi, Pakistan, to an international podcast platform is a testament to curiosity, resilience, and the entrepreneurial spirit. A Journey Sparked by Curiosity and Encouragement Sana’s story began in 2023, when she was only ten years old. With encouragement from her mother, she shifted her time away from passive entertainment toward learning coding and building websites. Very quickly, she not only mastered skills far beyond her years but began to attract attention from adults—some twice or three times her age—who turned to her for guidance. This early success underscored a truth that continues to shape her path: ambition and focus are not limited by age. Her initial LinkedIn presence grew rapidly, amassing thousands of followers. But because she was underage, the platform eventually banned her account. Instead of giving up, Sana started again, this time with a clearer vision. Rather than focusing only on coding, she saw an opportunity to address a widespread challenge: many professionals were generating likes, comments, and followers on LinkedIn, yet struggling to convert that visibility into paying clients. Sana stepped into this gap with a simple but powerful insight—engagement is nice, but clients are better. Sana Ali is Building a New Model on LinkedIn With her fresh approach, Sana began optimizing LinkedIn funnels. She mapped out the journey from a cold prospect to a high-ticket client, showing coaches and consultants how to stop chasing vanity metrics and start building sustainable revenue. One of her earliest breakthroughs came when a skeptical prospect realized that, despite thousands of followers, they were making no money. Sana provided strategic adjustments and, to their surprise, turned the engagement into paying clients. That success story became the first of many case studies demonstrating the effectiveness of her methods. In conversation with Andi, Sana explained how the tactics of outreach have shifted over the years. Cold pitches and generic compliments that may have worked in 2015 no longer resonate in 2025. Instead, the new “currency” is trust. Building trust requires empathy, genuine compliments, thoughtful questions, and adding value without immediately pushing for a sale. For Sana, this approach is not theoretical—it is the lived experience of someone whose age initially raised doubts, yet whose results quickly silenced them. The Core of Her Success: Trust and Empathy Throughout the discussion, Sana emphasized that trust is the foundation of client relationships today. Prospects are savvy, often wary of sales pitches, and increasingly skeptical about whether they are interacting with a real human or an AI bot. Sana has mastered the art of demonstrating authenticity—through personalized conversations, empathy for her clients’ situations, and valuable insights freely given before any sales conversation. One example she shared involved a client who joined a call while ill. Instead of pressing forward, Sana suggested rescheduling, showing genuine care for the individual. That small act of empathy built immediate trust, leading to a long-term client relationship. Stories like these highlight her maturity, compassion, and business acumen far beyond her years. Lessons for Entrepreneurs of All Ages The episode closes with reflections on Sana’s journey and her advice for young entrepreneurs: age should never be seen as a limitation. Whether learning coding at ten or advising adults on LinkedIn strategy by twelve, she has proven that commitment and ambition can accelerate success at any stage of life. For her, the choice to spend time building a business rather than playing video games has opened doors to opportunities she once could not have imagined. For listeners of On the Brink, this episode is more than an inspiring story—it is a reminder of how quickly the business landscape is changing, and how younger generations are not just adapting but leading. Sana Ali embodies the entrepreneurial mindset: seeing opportunities, embracing change, and building trust in a world where trust itself has become the most valuable commodity. You can watch our podcast on YouTube here Connect with me: Website: www.simonassociates.netEmail: info@simonassociates.netBooks: Learn more about our books here: Rethink: Smashing the Myths of Women in Business Women Mean Business: Over 500 Insights from Extraordinary Leaders to Spark Your Success On the Brink: A Fresh Lens to Take Your Business to New Heights Listen + Subscribe: Available wherever you get your podcasts—Apple, Spotify, Stitcher, YouTube, and more. If you ...
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    27 min
  • Tsahala David on Sales Strategy, AI, and Revenue Growth

    Tsahala David on Sales Strategy, AI, and Revenue Growth
    Sep 7 2025
    Selling has always been at the heart of business growth—but how we sell, who sells, and what customers expect has changed dramatically. On this episode of On the Brink with Andi Simon, I spoke with Tsahala David, CEO of Great Revenue, a sales consulting firm that helps B2B software companies grow smarter and faster. With an extraordinary background—MIT MBA, tech founder, and sales leadership roles at IBM and Salesforce—Tsahala has seen sales from every angle. Her story and insights reveal not just how to grow revenue but how to thrive in a new era of sales transformation From Startup Founder to Sales Leader Tshala’s journey began in Israel, where she completed military service and studied psychology before shifting into computer science. After founding her own tech company in her twenties, she confronted an early challenge many entrepreneurs face: defining her role. At first reluctant to call herself “CEO,” she quickly realized that imposter syndrome had to be shed—because if you’re running the business, you are the CEO That early startup experience gave her first-hand knowledge of the uphill battle founders face in selling products, building teams, and convincing investors. Seeking more tools, she went to MIT for her MBA, then built a 20-year career in sales at global giants like IBM and Salesforce, closing multi-million-dollar deals with clients like Wells Fargo and Cisco. At Salesforce, she learned what she calls the “power of sparkle”—the way a company can attract talent, customers, and attention by combining strategy with personality and brand charisma. These lessons now fuel her work at Great Revenue, where she helps companies align their sales strategies with today’s market realities. Common Mistakes in Startup Sales One of Tsahala’s most valuable contributions is diagnosing the mistakes founders and sales leaders make at different growth stages. Early-stage startups often believe that signing a few reseller “partners” means they have a sales team. But, as Tshala warns, relying on partners who only earn commission when they sell means sales rarely happen. The real cost isn’t money—it’s lost time, and in startups, six months of delay can kill your competitive advantageLater-stage companies often get compensation plans wrong. She shared a case where salespeople were paid less for online orders than phone orders. Predictably, reps discouraged online buying and insisted clients call them—hurting profitability and wasting resources. The lesson? Follow the money. Salespeople respond to incentives, so design compensation plans with the outcomes you wantSales management is another weak spot. Too often, managers don’t require reps to prepare for pipeline meetings. Tshala recommends using simple forms that force reps to answer key questions—deal size, decision makers, last contact, close date. This not only helps managers track progress but also helps sellers spot gaps in their deals The Role of AI in Sales Naturally, our conversation turned to AI in sales. Tsahala sees tools like ChatGPT as game-changers for research and preparation. Instead of spending hours digging through reports, salespeople can instantly access a company’s strategy, leadership, and metrics. But there’s a catch: weak sellers often use AI as a crutch, staying at a generic level. Strong sellers know to go deeper, asking sharper questions and tailoring insights to the customer’s specific needs. AI, Tshala argues, empowers strong sellers but won’t rescue weak ones The future belongs to those who combine technology with human curiosity, empathy, and problem-solving. Shifts in Buyer Behavior Another theme we explored was the dramatic shift in how buyers engage with sellers. Older generations may remember sitting across the table until a contract was signed. But today’s buyers often don’t work in offices, don’t answer phones, and rely on digital channels to research solutions. Events are no longer centralized; instead, buyers connect through fragmented online communities—from LinkedIn groups to Discord servers. That means marketing now owns much of the top of the funnel, while sales must focus on converting leads and building trust. Sellers today must immerse themselves in buyers’ digital worlds, positioning themselves not just as vendors but as collaborators in problem-solving Key Takeaways for Sales Leaders As we wrapped up our conversation, Tsahala emphasized that sales is a profession, not a side hustle. Everyone thinks they know how to sell—after all, we’ve all sold something, even if just a used car or lemonade stand. But true sales success requires expertise, structure, and strategy. Here are her top three lessons for sales leaders and entrepreneurs: Don’t go it alone. Sales consulting isn’t optional—it’s an investment in avoiding costly mistakes.Design incentives wisely. Compensation plans drive behavior. Align them with your business ...
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    34 min
  • Gregory Vetter on Reinventing the American Dream

    Gregory Vetter on Reinventing the American Dream
    Sep 1 2025
    When opportunity knocks, sometimes it comes in the most unexpected ways—like someone breaking into your home to steal a salad dressing. That’s the unlikely spark that launched Gregory Vetter’s entrepreneurial journey, one that would forever change the way Americans think about clean eating. On this episode of On the Brink with Andi Simon, Gregory shares his remarkable story: how he turned his mother’s homemade salad dressing into Tessemae’s, the nation’s #1 organic refrigerated salad dressing brand. His story is more than a business tale—it’s a lesson in resilience, innovation, and redefining the American Dream. From a Missing Salad Dressing to a National Brand Gregory’s journey began in the humblest way. A friend—who didn’t even like salad—confessed to stealing Gregory’s mother’s homemade dressing. That was the “aha” moment. If the product was so irresistible it could inspire theft, perhaps it was good enough to sell. Armed only with conviction and cold-calling skills, Gregory approached local grocery stores. With no packaging, no brand, and no experience, he brought samples in Tupperware. The response was immediate: “This is the best salad dressing I’ve ever had.” That first yes opened the door to a 15-year journey that saw Tessemae’s become a pioneer in the clean food movement—introducing gum-free dressing, Whole30-approved products, and a national reputation for innovation. Scaling Dreams and Facing Hard Truths But entrepreneurship is rarely a straight line. As Gregory candidly shares, success brought challenges: supply chain crises, investor pressures, and hostile takeover attempts. What began as a family dream turned into a battle of lawyers, negotiations, and financial strain. Eventually, the company was handed to private equity for pennies on the dollar. For many, this might have felt like a nightmare ending. But Gregory reframed it: “Leadership comes down to leading by example and leaving things better than you found them.” Redefining the American Dream That reframing became the core of Gregory’s bestselling book, Undressed: The Unfiltered Story of My Failed American Dream and How It Led to Success. In it, he unpacks the lessons of failure—how losing what you built can actually unlock clarity, resilience, and a more grounded understanding of success. Today, Gregory leads Homegrown Brand Accelerator, helping emerging entrepreneurs avoid the pitfalls he faced. From produce businesses with zero food waste to launching Mexico’s largest avocado oil brand in the U.S., his playbook is now a blueprint for others. Building Businesses with Purpose Gregory’s work now emphasizes something far beyond profits: purpose. His ventures align with values like sustainability, clean food, and personal well-being. He also hosts retreats designed to help leaders find their most “optimal state”—balancing time, health, family, and purpose. He reminds us that money can’t buy four essential things: your time, your soul, your health, and your children’s love. For him, these are the real pillars of success. Lessons for Entrepreneurs and Leaders Gregory’s story is full of takeaways for anyone navigating entrepreneurship or leadership: Ignorance can be fuel. Sometimes not knowing the rules lets you break them creatively.Conviction matters. Believing in your idea—before anyone else does—is often the hardest step.Protect your dream. Be cautious with investors; alignment of values is as important as funding.Failure is a teacher. Reframing setbacks can lead to stronger, wiser ventures.Purpose outlasts profit. Businesses built on doing good create lasting impact. As Gregory puts it, quoting JFK: “The ancient Greek definition of happiness was the full use of your powers along lines of excellence.” When work aligns with purpose, excellence follows. Listen In or Watch on Youtube. This conversation is for anyone who’s ever wondered how to turn an idea into reality, or how to rebuild after dreams don’t go as planned. Gregory’s story is proof that even when things don’t end the way you imagined, they can still lead to something greater. Discover how you can turn your observations into innovations—just like Gregory Vetter. You might enjoy listening to these podcasts about similar topics at https://www.simonassociates.net/category/podcast/ Connect with me: Website: www.simonassociates.netEmail: info@simonassociates.netBooks: Learn more about our books here: Rethink: Smashing the Myths of Women in Business Women Mean Business: Over 500 Insights from Extraordinary Leaders to Spark Your Success On the Brink: A Fresh Lens to Take Your Business to New Heights Listen + Subscribe: Available wherever you get your podcasts—Apple, Spotify, Stitcher, YouTube, and more. If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review and share with someone navigating their own leadership journey. Reach out and contact us if you want to see how a little anthropology ...
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    36 min
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