Épisodes

  • Chapter 5: Be One School
    Oct 1 2025

    They can't all be winners. As Chris and Zac continue re-visiting their ideas and writing from 10 years ago, they meet their first regret. The idea? Yes, still important. The execution of the chapter? Well, this episode can serve as an upgraded replacement.

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    36 min
  • Chapter 4: Build Modern Schools
    Aug 26 2025

    It's the shortest chapter so far, and it's left Chris and Zac with a lot to consider as they examine whether what counted as modern schools ten years ago still fit the bill today.

    The answer? It's complicated.

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    36 min
  • Chapter 3: Citizenship is More Important than the Workforce
    Aug 20 2025

    Chris and Zac dive in to Chapter 3, wish they hadn't added "the" to the chapter title, and double down on the need for civics, citizenship, and government classes for all students.

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    42 min
  • Chapter 2: We Must End Educational Colonialism
    Aug 12 2025

    Examining their thinking on the ideas of Chapter 2, Chris and Zac reflect on its original focus on the no-excuses school movement compared to the larger colonialist mindset growing in some larger conversations about the purpose and future of public education and teaching "other people's children."

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    34 min
  • Chapter 1: Schools Should Mirror the World as We Believe It Could Be
    Aug 5 2025

    On the exact 10th anniversary it was published, Chris and Zac revisit the first chapter of Building School 2.0 and double down on the importance of school as a public good. They also examine where they underestimated the onslaught of the attention economy and the tension between capitalism and the potentially liberating effects of technology in education.

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    29 min
  • Coming Soon: RE:BUILDING SCHOOL 2.0
    Jul 29 2025

    Re:Building School 2.0 is a podcast and an audiobook and a reflection. Co-hosts and co-authors Chris Lehmann and Zac Chase will work chapter-by-chapter through their book Building School 2.0: How to create the schools we need, and examine how their thinking has evolved or solidified a decade after they published their book.

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    1 min