We were told to be “professional” which too often meant “be a robot.” Meg and Jillian unpack why regulated emotion at work is not only human, it’s healthy and productive. From a raw story at the bedside to boardroom norms, they share how leaders can “go first,” how tears and trembles reset the nervous system, and simple micro-practices (20 seconds to 3 minutes) that prevent blowups and build trust.

Light advisory: Brief mention of infant loss.

Themes we explore:

• Why “no feelings at work” is a harmful myth
• Armor vs. authenticity (and how it affects performance)
• Nervous-system basics: crying, shaking, co-regulation
• Micro-practices: debriefs, short walks, permission to pause
• Leaders go first: modeling regulated emotion and safety
• Parenting parallels → better management habits
• “Slow down to speed up”: the business case for humane work

Quotes worth remembering:

• “Crying isn’t cracking. It’s a reset for the nervous system.”
• “When I see people emotional at work, it shows me that they care.”
• “Armor doesn’t serve us or our employers. It shuts down the parts of us that could make the biggest impact.”
• “Leaders go first. When you show your humanity, you give everyone else permission to do the same.”
• “The worst thing you can say to a child is ‘Don’t cry.’ That’s how we teach people to stuff emotions instead of moving through them.”
• “Slow down to speed up. Pausing for emotion makes us more effective, not less.”
• “Be brave enough to go first, even if you’re the only one. That’s how change starts.”

Takeaways

• Regulated emotion ≠ weakness; it’s how we reset and think clearly.
• Tiny releases (20s–3m) beat repressed feelings that explode later.
• Leaders can create micro safe spaces today—no policy change required.

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In this fun, lighter episode, Meg quizzes Jillian on all the acronyms and business lingo she throws around. From ROI to ARR to KPIs, they break down what these terms really mean, how they apply in real life, and why clarity and values matter more than jargon. A great listen for anyone who’s ever felt lost in “business-speak” but still wants to lead with heart.

Top Topics

• ROI, Revenue, ARR: demystifying core business terms.
• Bootstrapping vs. outside funding (PE/VC).
• KPIs and BHAGs: measuring success without losing humanity.
• Conversion rates & reframing sales as service.
• Why every company should hand new hires a glossary.

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Meg and Jillian dig into the money stories women inherit and the ways they can shift them. They share personal experiences of guilt, pricing struggles, and the cultural pressure to be “polite” about wealth. From childhood lessons to entrepreneurial growth, this conversation challenges women to own their value, seek abundance, and model new possibilities for the next generation.

Together they discuss:

• Scarcity vs. abundance in women’s money stories.
• Generational differences: girls asking for what they’re worth.
• Guilt, comparison, and the trap of “undeserving.”
• Pricing struggles and claiming your value in business.
• Teaching kids money with intention.

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In this short, powerful episode, Meg and Jillian explore what it means to stop shrinking and start expanding. From nervous system practices to shifting your everyday language, they share real stories about moving past fear, people-pleasing, and “sorry” habits to step into authentic power.

They dive into:

• The hidden ways women shrink in business and life.
• Reframing anxiety as a signal, not a stop sign.
• Why language matters: replacing apology with gratitude.
• Parenting + business stories of stepping into power.

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In this episode of Rooted and Rehumanizing, Meg and Jillian continue their conversation on growth edges. This time exploring what happens when high-achieving tendencies collide with the desire to serve deeply. They talk about the difference between overgiving and overdelivering, the importance of conserving energy, and how identity can get tangled up in work, roles, and external validation.

Meg shares the evolution of her new Bold Beautiful Life community and how creating group spaces allows for both collective transformation and personal sustainability. Jillian reflects on her own experiences with Trellis and in corporate roles, noticing how tying identity to performance led to over-complication and perfectionism, and how cutting ties with those patterns brought freedom. Together, they unpack what it means to lead from your highest self while letting go of conditional worth.

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Themes we explore:

• Over-giving vs. overdelivering
• Building communities that multiply impact without leaking energy
• The danger of tying identity to work or roles
• Receiving appreciation vs. external validation
• Parenting and language: raising kids without attaching their worth to labels like “smart” or “beautiful”
• Mirroring growth journeys and creating ripple effects

Quotes worth remembering:

• “I can’t want it more than them.”
• “Over-giving is not the same as overdelivering."
• “When business is good, business is good. And Jill is still Jill.”
• “I was amazing before anyone else said I was amazing.”
• “It’s not about being special, it’s about being uniquely you."
• “Our kids deserve to know their worth isn’t tied to performance, beauty, or intelligence.”

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In this episode of Rooted and Rehumanizing, Meg and Jillian unpack an unexpected but deeply human conversation that started on a day they almost didn’t record. What unfolded was an exploration of visibility, success, and the edges of growth that make us feel both excited and terrified.

They dive into what it really means to step into bigger visions, why fear of success can feel heavier than fear of failure, and how trusting yourself expands your capacity to lead and live fully. This episode is an invitation to embrace your uniqueness, lean into growth edges, and root yourself in who you already are.

Themes we explore:

• Moving through the fear of success
• Expanding your capacity to hold more
• Recognizing growth edges and choosing to lean in
• Building deeper self-trust
• Naming and normalizing the overwhelm that comes with success
• Living into the Be → Do → Have model

Quotes worth remembering:

• “I have to be visible to get this message out there.”
• “At some point, you have to trust yourself enough to stop anticipating and just handle it in the moment.”
• “Everything starts with an idea, then it’s up to you to make it real.”
• “Maybe don’t perform. Maybe just be.”
• “Be. Do. Have. First, be the version of yourself you want to be, and take action from that place.”
• “I am her. I’m not waiting. I already am.”

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In this episode, Meg and Jillian explore what it really means to build a life and business from the inside out. They unpack how hustle culture tricks us into performing for worth, how true success often requires unbecoming, and why your inner landscape is the most important part of your leadership, healing, and evolution. This is for anyone who's ever wondered if doing “the inner work” actually matters in a results-driven world… spoiler alert: it does!

• Redefining success from within
• Healing before hustling
• Performing vs. embodying
• Inner safety and nervous system regulation
• Building sustainable leadership through self-trust
• Being instead of constantly doing
• Letting go of "shoulds" in business and life

• “You can’t outsource your self-trust.”
• “So much of leadership is learning to feel safe in your own body.”
• “If you build on shaky inner ground, the whole thing crumbles eventually.”
• “Doing the inner work is not a luxury… it’s the foundation.”
• “Success without embodiment isn’t sustainable.”
• “When you lead from your wholeness, you invite others into theirs too.”

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In this episode, Meg and Jillian unpack the heart behind the podcast title: what it means to be rooted, how we’ve become disconnected from our humanity, and why rehumanizing our approach to work, leadership, and life is essential.

They explore the courage it takes to slow down, to come back to the body, and to remember that we are not machines… We are cyclical, sensitive, and sovereign beings.

This episode is both a grounding and a call forward.

• Coming back to your body as a sacred act
• Disconnection from self in high-performance cultures
• Living from cycles, not systems
• The difference between coping and healing
• Rehumanizing how we lead, serve, and relate
• Grounding as a tool for clarity and truth
• Creating space for pause, feeling, and integration

• “To be rooted is to know where you begin and end.”
• “The world tells us to go faster, but wisdom lives in the pause.”
• “Rehumanizing is remembering we are not machines… we are rhythmic, messy, and alive.”
• “You can’t rehumanize your business if you’re dissociated from your body.”
• “We’ve learned to perform our roles, but unlearning that performance is where the healing begins.”
• “If you're always productive but never present, are you actually living?”

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