It's estimated that empires collapse roughly every 270 years. So... What now? Best-selling author, podcaster, and climate change advisor, Sarah Wilson, joins Abbie to unpack if we're all screwed and need to start stocking up on canned goods. They chat about staying vigilant when our rights are being eroded, what simplifying our lives could bring, and what the current state of American democracy can tell us about global systems.

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CREDITS

Host: Abbie Chatfield @abbiechatfield
Guest: Sarah Wilson @_sarahwilson_
Executive Producer: Amy Kimball @amy.kimball
Digital and Social and Video Producer: Oscar Gordon @oscargordon
Social and Video Producer: Justin Hill @jus_hill
It's A Lot Social Media Manager: Julia Toomey
Managing Producer: Sam Cavanagh

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