Can cleaning out your closet actually help clear your mind? In this episode of A Wise and Happy Life, Bob Martin sits down with certified KonMari consultant Cathy Perez to explore the spiritual side of organizing.

Cathy shares how the KonMari method goes beyond tidying, it's a gratitude practice, a mindfulness tool, and a path to reconnecting with joy. You'll hear how “joy checking” isn't just about your stuff, it's about your energy, your clarity, and your soul. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by clutter or unsure where to begin, this conversation brings both peace and practical guidance.

This is Part 1 of a two-part series. In the next episode, Cathy and Bob dive into activism, volunteerism, and how serving others leads to lasting happiness.

• "The joy check is just a gratitude practice." Cathy explains how organizing isn’t about control, it’s about connection, presence, and self-respect.
• Mindful homes create mindful lives. Learn how clutter-free spaces support mental clarity, reduce stress, and help you live more intentionally.
• Your energy shapes the flow. Discover why you’re not just aligning with your environment, you’re co-creating it, moment by moment.

"The joy check is just a gratitude practice." – Cathy Perez

Connect with Cathy Perez:

• Podmatch: https://podmatch.com/guestdetail/cathyhannahperez
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@cathyhannahperez
• Email: cathyhannahperez@gmail.com
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cathyhannahperez

Connect with Bob Martin

• Website: https://www.awiseandhappylife.com/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-martin-995b30127/
• Podbean: https://awiseandhappylife.podbean.com/
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@IamBobMartin
• Email: bob@awiseandhappylife.com
• Download my Free Meditation Ebook: https://www.awiseandhappylife.com/what-is-meditation-anyway/
• Join my Free Monthly Q&A Session: https://register.awiseandhappylife.com/bob-martins-mindfulness-meetup
• Explore My Published Books: https://www.awiseandhappylife.com/books/

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