Stephan Janssen, the mind behind Devoxx, calls this moment the “renaissance of development” and explains why AI-native workflows are rewriting what’s possible. On the docket:

• how vibe coding cut months of setup and build into days
• why “spec to code” loops beat pure prompting every time
• what juniors gain from a universal AI tutor
• why agents are the big theme for Devoxx Belgium 2025 AI Native Dev,

AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development.

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1. Stephan Janssen - https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanjanssen/
2. Simon Maple - https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/
3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/
4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/

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What does it mean to be a developer when AI writes most of the code?

On this episode of AI Native Dev, Birgitta Böckeler, Distinguished Engineer at ThoughtWorks, joins Simon Maple to unpack how AI is changing legacy migrations, and why the real value comes from pairing LLMs with proven software engineering practices.

They also get into:
• why “AI alone” won’t solve legacy modernization
• how codemods and deterministic tools amplify AI creativity
• the reflex to rewrite vs. the discipline to refactor
• why developers need to evolve into managers of AI-driven workflows

AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk about all things AI, security, and development.

Connect with us here:
1. Birgitta Böckeler - https://www.linkedin.com/in/birgittaboeckeler/
2. Simon - https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/
3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/
4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/

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AI coding is great for demos, but can it handle production apps?

On this episode of AI Native Dev, Maor Shlomo, founder of Base44, joins Guy Podjarny to share how he built one of the first “batteries-included” AI app builders and what it reveals about building real software in the age of LLMs.

They dive into:
• why less complexity helps LLMs perform
• how Base44 ships apps with databases and integrations built in
• what smaller, high-context teams can do that big ones can’t
• the path from vibe coding to agentic applications

AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk about all things AI, security, and development.

Connect with us here:
1. Maor Shlomo - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maor-shlomo-1088b4144/
2. Guy Podjarny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/guypo/
3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/
4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/

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Rapid prototyping is fun, but maintaining it? Not so much.

In this episode, Simon Maple is joined by Nikhil Swaminathan, Head of Product and Richard Threlkeld, Principal Engineer at Kiro IDE (AWS), to discuss how spec-driven development moves the focus from writing code to understanding and communicating system behavior, building software that is easy to understand so that developers can maintain code without losing clarity.

They also explore:
• Kiro’s philosophy on spec-driven development
• why specs must be composable documents
• how specs enable better review and reasoning around refactors

AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk about all things AI, security, and development.

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1. Richard Threlkeld- https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-threlkeld-ba31aa1/
2. Nikhil Swaminathan- https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilswaminathan/
3. Simon Maple- https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/
4. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/
5. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/

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On this episode of AI Native Dev, David Cramer, co-founder of Sentry, joins Guy Podjarny to talk about what it really takes to ship faster with LLMs built into the workflow, and why over 4 million devs rely on Sentry to do it right.

On the docket:
• how Sentry’s moat is built on deeply interconnected app data
• why David prefers Cursor over Claude
• how a cynical mindset kills AI adoption before it begins

AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development.

Connect with us here:
1. David Cramer- https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmcramer/
2. Guy Podjarny- https://www.linkedin.com/in/guypo/
3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/
4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/

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With AI adoption surging across orgs, Justin Reock, CTO at DX, joins Simon Maple to break down the difference between meaningful integration and just chasing trends.

They also get into:
• two levers of velocity: quality and maintainability.
• why measuring real AI impact starts with knowing who’s using it and how
• how AI supercharges developer productivity across the SDLC

AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development.

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1. Justin Reock- https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinreock/
2. Simon Maple- https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/
3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/
4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/

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In this compilation, Olivier Pomel (Datadog), Mati Staniszewski (ElevenLabs), and Victor Riparbelli (Synthesia) join Guy Podjarny to unpack what it takes to build category defining products in the AI native era.

On the docket:
• why root cause detection felt like sci-fi a few years ago, and what’s changed
• the early challenges ElevenLabs faced as an audio first AI company
• how Synthesia got Mark Cuban to invest in them

AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development.

Connect with us here:
1. Olivier Pomel- https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivierpomel/
2. Mati Staniszewski- https://www.linkedin.com/in/matiii/
3. Victor Riparbelli- https://www.linkedin.com/in/victorriparbelli/
4. Guy Podjarny- https://www.linkedin.com/in/guypo/
5. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/
6. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/

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Jonathan Schneider, co-founder and CEO of Moderne, joins Simon Maple to share how real engineering teams are using Moderne’s rewrite engine to reduce technical debt at the source, and drive org-wide transformation.

On the docket:

• the hard limit LLMs can’t scale past
• why OpenRewrite uses a declarative framework
• the real challenge: accessing the compiler’s truth

AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development.

Connect with us here:
1. Jonathan Schneider- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonkschneider/
2. Simon Maple- https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/
3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/
4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/

Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh

Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io