In this episode of The Long Haul Podcast, Steve and Claire sit down with Jenn Phillips — outdoor leader, community builder, and founder of MJ Outdoor Adventures — for a powerful and honest conversation about menopause, movement, and making space for women to thrive in the wild.

Jenn opens up about her own journey through perimenopause, the physical and emotional toll it can take, and how time in nature became a vital part of her healing. We explore how walking, wild spaces, and shared experiences with others can help women reclaim strength, identity, and connection during midlife.

In This Episode:

• Jenn’s personal journey through perimenopause
• The origin and mission behind MJ Outdoor Adventures
• Why menopause is still taboo — and how that’s changing
• How outdoor communities support mental and emotional health
• The link between movement, mindset, and managing symptoms
• Creating safe spaces for women to be seen, heard, and supported
• Advice for women navigating menopause alone
• Why the outdoors can be the ultimate reset button

About Jenn Phillips:

Jenn is the founder of MJ Outdoor Adventures,

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Episode Summary:

In this inspiring episode, Claire and Steve sit down with Sarah Lister — a career coach who helps people reconnect with purpose and possibility through coaching and time in nature. As a qualified Hill and Moorland Leader (HML) and host of the Wild About Kinder podcast, Sarah brings a unique blend of coaching wisdom, grounded outdoor experience, and deep reflection on the paths we choose in life.

We talk career changes, finding stillness in nature, the power of slow progress, and how the hills can mirror our personal growth. Whether you're stuck at a career crossroads or simply craving deeper connection with your own direction, this one’s for you.

In This Episode:

• Sarah’s journey from office life to outdoor leadership
• What she’s learned from guiding in the hills
• The origins and vision behind Wild About Kinder
• Using nature as a mirror for personal development
• How coaching clients find clarity through slowness and space
• Lessons from her own career transitions
• The value of not always having the answers
• Why more people should trust their gut — and go for a walk

About Sarah Lister:

Sarah is a qualified career coach, certified Hill and Moorland Leader, and the voice behind Wild About Kinder — a podcast exploring the magic of walking, wildness, and wonder. Her coaching practice blends the structure of personal development with the freedom and challenge of the outdoors.

Connect with Sarah:

• Website:https://www.abouttheadventure.com/
• Instagram: about.the.adventure
• Podcast: Wild About Kinder (available on Spotify/Apple)

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👣 Get outside. Get clear. And keep going — even when the climb gets steep.

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In this inspiring episode of The Long Haul Podcast, We sit down with Andy Steel – a man who flipped the script at 58. After retiring from a successful career, Andy didn’t slow down. He went back to university to become a podiatrist. Yep, you read that right.

We talk about what drives someone to pursue a new purpose later in life, the challenges of being a mature student surrounded by Gen Z, and why following curiosity might be the ultimate act of self-leadership.

If you’re in your 40s, 50s or beyond and wondering if it’s too late to change direction – this episode is your wake-up call. It’s never too late to reinvent yourself.

🔑 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

Why Andy decided to go back to university at 58

The mindset needed to start again after retirement

How he chose podiatry – and why it’s more interesting than you think

The emotional and practical challenges of retraining later in life

Advice for anyone thinking about a midlife career change

The Long Haul Podcast is supported by Pilgrim Journey: Pilgrim has an outstanding range of Performance backpacks, and clothing they stand for those who push beyond comfort, who embrace risk with open arms and who seek out the paths less travelled.

We empower you to conquer the journeys that matter most – because in the end, it’s not where you’re going, but how you get

there that defines you.

TLH podcast also supports the Pilgrim bandits charity and the Army Cadet Charitable Trust

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