In Episode 31 of The MSP Sales Podcast, Brian Gillette is joined by Chris Day (CEO at ScalePad) for a no-nonsense conversation about the shift every MSP leader must make to move from reactive survival mode to intentional leadership.

Too many MSPs remain dependent on the owner. Every decision, escalation, and bottleneck runs through one person. Chris breaks down why this happens, how it silently limits momentum, and what it actually takes to build an MSP that can operate and grow without constant founder involvement.

Together, Brian and Chris explore: ➡️ Why reactivity keeps MSPs stuck (even when revenue is growing) ➡️ How intentional leadership creates leverage ➡️ How to build systems instead of dependencies ➡️ How to step out of the day-to-day without losing control of the business

If you’re an MSP owner who feels indispensable to your business - or concerned that your growth still feels fragile - this episode will challenge how you think about what “leveling up” looks like.

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Have you heard the news about Brian's new book? "How To Sell a Sh*tload of Managed Services (without selling your soul)" It’s your roadmap to build repeatable growth, higher margins, and stronger client relationships without compromising values. Get it now at Amazon.com https://a.co/d/hJKoFxg Learn all about Feel-Good MSP and our end-to-end MSP sales training, growth and development program at: www.FeelGoodMSP.com #MSP #MSPSales #ManagedServices #ManagedServiceProvider #TechSales #MSPCommunity #ITServices #ManagedIT #CloudServices #ITConsulting #MSPSalesTraining #SalesProcess #BusinessStrategy #BusinessGrowth #MSPMarketing #SalesTraining

In Episode 30 of The MSP Sales Podcast, Brian Gillette sits down with Jim Spignardo, Director of Cloud Strategy & AI Enablement at ProArch, for a practical conversation about what it actually takes to build a modern MSP today.

With over 25 years in IT across networking, cloud, cybersecurity, and consulting, Jim brings a grounded perspective on how MSPs must evolve beyond tools and tech stacks. Together, they explore how cloud maturity, AI enablement, and user experience now intersect - and how ignoring any of them creates friction for clients and internal teams.

They discuss; ➡️ Why “modern MSP” is more about experience than tech ➡️ How AI is reshaping service delivery ➡️ The role of cloud strategy in long-term MSP relevance ➡️ Why UX matters just as much for internal teams as end users ➡️ Common mistakes MSPs make when adopting AI If you’re an MSP owner, technical leader, or consultant trying to modernize your services, this conversation will help you think more clearly about where to focus.

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Have you heard the news about Brian's new book? "How To Sell a Sh*tload of Managed Services (without selling your soul)" It’s your roadmap to build repeatable growth, higher margins, and stronger client relationships without compromising values. Get it now at Amazon.com https://a.co/d/hJKoFxg Learn all about Feel-Good MSP and our end-to-end MSP sales training, growth and development program at: www.FeelGoodMSP.com #MSP #MSPSales #ManagedServices #ManagedServiceProvider #TechSales #MSPCommunity #ITServices #ManagedIT #CloudServices #ITConsulting #MSPSalesTraining #SalesProcess #BusinessStrategy #BusinessGrowth #MSPMarketing #SalesTraining

In Episode 29 of The MSP Sales Podcast, Brian Gillette sits down with Dor Eisner (CEO & Co-Founder of Guardz) for a grounded, myth-busting conversation about selling cybersecurity in an AI-shaped world.

Too many MSPs feel pressured to become “cyber experts” overnight while many clients think cybersecurity is either too technical or too expensive to take seriously. Dor explains why both sides are looking at the problem the wrong way, and how MSPs can simplify, educate, and lead with confidence.

Together, they explore:

➡️ Why MSPs overestimate how much clients want to know about cybersecurity ➡️ How AI is already reshaping threat landscapes ➡️ A practical path for MSPs who feel “outgunned” by the pace of innovation ➡️ Why selling cybersecurity is really about risk reduction ➡️ The common fears that stall customer decisions

Whether you’re an MSP owner, vCISO, or someone trying to meaningfully add cybersecurity to your stack, this episode will help you communicate value more clearly, close deals more confidently, and protect clients more effectively.

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Have you heard the news about Brian's new book? "How To Sell a Sh*tload of Managed Services (without selling your soul)" It’s your roadmap to build repeatable growth, higher margins, and stronger client relationships without compromising values. Get it now at Amazon.com https://a.co/d/hJKoFxg Learn all about Feel-Good MSP and our end-to-end MSP sales training, growth and development program at: www.FeelGoodMSP.com #MSP #MSPSales #ManagedServices #ManagedServiceProvider #TechSales #MSPCommunity #ITServices #ManagedIT #CloudServices #ITConsulting #SalesTraining #SalesProcess #BusinessStrategy #BusinessGrowth #MSPMarketing