In this soul-stirring episode of The Rabia & Sana Show, we’re joined by musician and “slow mystic” Jerry Mac — a freedom maximalist, passive activist, and self-inquiry facilitator. Jerry shares how radical honesty, minimalism, and embracing the “what-is” have guided his journey of resilience, healing, and personal growth.

From maintaining meaningful relationships with exes to challenging cultural norms around activism, Jerry’s philosophy invites us to rethink connection, truth, and inner peace. 🌿✨

We explore:

• 🔍 What it means to be a passive activist
• 💔 Healing relationships and redefining endings
• 🧘 Minimalism as mental clarity
• 🤍 Finding peace within — and choosing authenticity over conformity

This episode is a gentle nudge to live more honestly, love more freely, and grow more fearlessly.

🎧 Tune in to discover how quiet rebellion can spark powerful transformation.

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Facebook: @jerryxmac

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In this powerful and eye-opening episode, Rabia and Sana welcome Shakeb Zuber, an advocate, educator, and truth-seeker, whose journey has been about growth, adaptability, and challenging stereotypes. Shakeb's work includes working with NGOs on campaigns for women's empowerment as well as in the corporate sector, content management and business development. In this episode, they explore how deeply culture and society influence the way we see beauty, religion, and women’s identities—especially in South Asian communities.

They unpack society’s version of religion versus the actual essence of faith, and how women’s identities are often reduced to their appearance. Shakeb shares his personal journey of unlearning the toxic ideals of beauty he was taught, redefining it through resilience, authenticity, and inner strength. From the dangerous obsession with fair skin to the cruel reality of acid attacks in India, this episode sheds light on the pain that fuels his mission—and how we are all part of the mindset that enables it. Shakeb speaks candidly about working with acid attack survivors and young children who already associate value with glamor. His message is clear: we are more than how we look, and breaking free starts from within.

They go deep into the sensitive topic of how culture and religion intertwine in the South Asian culture and what we can do to separate culture from religion.

💬 "We are not worshipping God—we're worshipping people. That’s not religion, that’s culture."

👉 Listen now, reflect deeply, and share this episode with someone who needs to hear it. Change starts with awareness.

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In this deeply reflective episode, Rabia and Sana explore the roots of hate, extremism, and misinformation with Zahed Amanullah who has spent 20 years researching, analyzing and coordinating efforts to combat hate and extremism. They dive into the roots of hate, extremism, and misinformation—and explore how each of us can play a role in building a more compassionate, connected society. Zahed shares powerful insights from his work addressing Islamophobia and promoting truth, empathy, and social healing.

We discuss how misinformation spreads and deepens division, and what we can actively do to stop it. From personal responsibility to practicing humility and open-mindedness, this episode challenges us to reflect on how we communicate, listen, and coexist.

We also explore the immigrant experience, the process of unlearning harmful beliefs, and how identity is shaped across generations. Zahed leaves us with a hopeful message about reclaiming our shared humanity and creating a culture that values understanding over fear.

If you're ready to move from reaction to reflection—and from division to dialogue—this conversation is for you.

Contact Zahed Amanullah
Website: https://www.isdglobal.org/
X: @zahed
BlueSky: @zahed.bsky.social
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zahedamanullah

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