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  • Inside the AI race: Energy use, agents and the real impact on work
    Nov 20 2025
    Reporting from the front line of the artificial intelligence revolution, Time magazine reporter Harry Booth has a unique perspective on the technology moving markets and transforming business. The London-based University of Auckland graduate has been part of Time’s team of AI reporters for the last 16 months, his byline regularly appearing in the pages of the iconic news magazine. This week’s episode of The Business of Tech podcast features an in-depth conversation with Booth, who gave me a tour of how AI is reshaping the world of work, explained the technology’s breakneck pace of development, looming questions over its energy use, and the critical signals to watch as 2026 approaches. Is AI really cleaning up? Despite dire predictions that white-collar jobs would be decimated, Booth finds reality to be more complex and, in some ways, more sobering. In areas like translation, seasoned professionals aren’t being replaced outright. Instead, their roles have shifted. Translators Booth interviewed are now tasked with correcting AI-generated text – a role rebranded as “AI cleanup” – which brings downward pressure on rates without necessarily delivering true productivity gains. Surprisingly, fixing flawed machine translation can take as long as translating from scratch, eroding job satisfaction and earnings for skilled workers.​ The same story, Booth notes, is playing out in other “canary in the coal mine” sectors. A frequently cited study found that software engineers using AI coding assistants believed their workload to be 20% faster. But empirical measurement showed a 20% slowdown. This suggests productivity impacts are far from settled, with AI often under-delivering unless carefully tailored to fit the workflow.​ From assistants to agents Much has been made in the past year of the rise of “AI agents” – systems that operate independently and can execute multi-step tasks, not just answer queries. “We’re seeing the emergence of agentic AI — these aren’t just chatbots, but systems that can carry out tasks, fetch data, and increasingly do things in the world on our behalf,” Booth told me. He believes we’re still in the early innings. Some AI can now complete longer software engineering tasks. The length of time an AI system can work independently has roughly doubled every four to seven months. If that trend holds, Booth suggests we could see agents capable of a full workday by 2027. However, today’s agents remain far from being true digital employees. Meaningful productivity gains only appear when companies design AI tools that address specific, high-value pain points using both language models and smart software engineering.​ Energy, infrastructure, and the next bottleneck On the infrastructure side, AI’s growing thirst for energy is emerging as a defining challenge. Far from being a personal moral issue (a single AI prompt’s carbon footprint is tiny, Booth points out), energy is a strategic concern for the giants racing to train ever-larger models. “AI isn’t a climate disaster at the individual level, but as companies multiply their data centres, the real bottleneck for development is shifting – from talent and chips to energy itself,” he said. With global electricity production growing slowly and massive datacenter builds underway, companies are securing long-term energy deals – sometimes using the rhetoric of AI’s needs as justification for keeping older, dirtier power sources online.​ But Booth also highlights a surprising upside: the same AI giants are pouring fresh capital into clean-energy tech, particularly nuclear fusion. Projects previously imagined as decades away are suddenly within striking distance. Fusion investment has exploded from US$2 billion to $15 billion in just three years, with players like OpenAI, Google, and Softbank on board. New Zealand’s own OpenStar is part of this story, pursuing commercial fusion with techniques borrowed from the scrappy world of startups. While a fusion-powered data centre is still years away, the influx of funding is credibly accelerating commercial viability, with some experts predicting net-positive fusion within a decade.​ What Harry Booth is watching in 2026 As AI accelerates, Booth will keep his investigative lens focused on several fronts in 2026: Will the time horizon, how long an AI agent can independently operate, keep doubling at today’s pace? How will new training techniques, like direct observation of professionals and ever-more-complex simulation environments, impact AI capability? Will scaling models with ever-greater compute keep delivering breakthroughs, or are diminishing returns setting in? Most importantly, can the infrastructure, both silicon and power, keep up? Can the effort to make AI safer and more transparent move as quickly as the technology itself?​ Tune in to this week’s The Business of Tech to hear the full conversation with Harry Booth, ...
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    43 min
  • Catherine Beard: BusinessNZ Advocacy Director on the report calling for a long-term plan to strengthen the country by 2050
    Nov 19 2025

    Bold, bipartisan centred planning is key to ensuring New Zealand doesn't succumb to the effects of a dwindling population and economic growth.

    A new BusinessNZ report's calling for a cross-party vision and long-term goals to strengthen the country by 2050.

    It notes a labour shortage of at least a quarter of a million is expected before then, and there's also a one in four chance the population doesn't grow.

    Advocacy Director Catherine Beard says businesses are sick of political u-turns and flip-flops.

    She told Mike Hosking we’re currently stumbling towards the future in a blindfolded fashion, and the report is designed to get everyone to think outside of the box.

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    3 min
  • Mary Holm: personal finance expert on the growing number of Kiwis facing financial pressure this Christmas
    Nov 19 2025

    New data shows that more Kiwis will have to take on debt ahead of this coming Christmas season.

    A nationwide survey by MYOB showed 35 percent expected to feel financially better off in a year's time, while 38 percent expected to be about the same, and 24 percent believed they would be worse off.

    Personal finance expert Mary Holm says more Kiwi households will be struggling to afford presents for their kids, but there are workarounds.

    "There's buying only op-shop gifts or second-hand books, which could be quite fun, going and rummaging around bookshops to find the right gift for people."

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    5 min
  • Leeann Watson: Business Canterbury Chief Executive on Business NZ report
    Nov 19 2025

    A warning our major political parties need to display more bipartisan planning so we don't buckle to a dwindling population and economic growth.

    Business NZ's report warns a labour shortage of at least a quarter of a million is expected before 2050, and there's also a one in four chance the population doesn't grow.

    Business Canterbury Chief Executive Leeann Watson told Andrew Dickens says major parties need to reach a certain level of bipartisan agreement on the country's big decisions

    She says businesses want to see steady incremental progress not a pendulum shift which potentially puts us backwards.

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    4 min
  • John MacDonald: I'm paying attention to BusinessNZ, I hope you are too
    Nov 19 2025

    I hope people are sitting-up and paying attention to what BusinessNZ is saying today.

    Especially the people who have their heads in the sand about our ability as a country to keep paying for things like healthcare and pensions.

    Because, as BusinessNZ puts it, we don’t have enough people to keep on doing that and we need a lot more people.

    As one headline today says, New Zealand needs 10 million people to stay afloat.

    BusinessNZ says we need twice as many people just to keep the lights on. For several reasons.

    For starters, in 20 years’ time we’ll have a labour shortage of 250,000 people. And unless we bring a truckload more people into the country, we won’t have enough workers to do the work. But also, we won’t have enough workers paying tax to pay for the likes of healthcare and the pension.

    That’s why I hope people are paying attention. Because, if we think we can keep on keeping on, providing the same services and doing things like dishing out the pension to anyone and everyone just because they turn 65, then we have to either stop doing that or somehow find a way to keep doing it.

    If BusinessNZ was a political party, it wouldn’t last five minutes, because the stuff it’s saying today is the stuff that doesn’t win elections. But it’s the stuff we have to listen to and accept.

    Example: raising the retirement age. If we are going to be five million people short of being financially viable as a country, we’re all going to have to keep on working longer. Most politicians are too scared to say that, but it’s true.

    Or if we still want to retire at 65, we’re going to have to pay for it ourselves. Again, most politicians are too scared to say that, but it’s true.

    Now I’m not talking about this happening next week or next year. I’m saying that it’s inevitable that, at some point, we are going to have to accept that everyone retiring at 65 and everyone getting the state-funded pension is a thing of the past. Because we can’t afford it.

    Which is why BusinessNZ is also saying today that we’re going to have to start putting more into our KiwiSaver.

    That’s another no-brainer. Because, if we’re in a position where we need to double the population just to keep the place running, then we need to change how we do things.

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    4 min
  • Kerre Woodham: Contractors, employees, and the gig economy
    Nov 18 2025

    Business NZ Chief Executive Katherine Rich says the Supreme Court's ruling that Uber drivers are in fact employees of Uber, not contractors, could have far-reaching implications for businesses that hired contractors, and she says it could collapse the gig economy. What's the gig economy? Well, when we're talking about the gig economy, we mean people who work on single projects or tasks, gigs, on demand. They're often hired through a digital marketplace, think Uber, Airbnb, and gig workers can be anyone from part-timers looking to make extra dosh from a second job that they can work around their own hours, to full-time freelancers. They can also be from a range of backgrounds across a range of industries.

    On the plus side, if you're a gig worker, there's more flexibility for hours and remote work, high earning potential —the keyword there is potential—, the option to work for various companies, you're not tied to one, and the ability to become your own boss.

    On the downside, there is the potential to make very little. The gig economy is unsteady, and for many it's an unsatisfactory alternative to a secure and stable full-time job with all the associated benefits, sick pay, annual leave, and the like. Now, a lot of young ones say they want the flexibility that comes with having a gig and a side hustle and doing a bit there. The idea of turning up and working 9am to 5pm is absolute anathema to them, until they get sick or until they realise that they need to set aside money for holidays or until say they want parental leave. And then all of a sudden, a secure job doesn't look so bad after all.

    Now, with the Supreme Court ruling, in effect, contractors can have their cake and eat it too if it flows on to other industries. The drivers who brought the case against Uber said they were seeking fundamental human rights in relation to the work they did for the company.

    Uber says, "Oh, come on, you knew what you were getting into when you signed the contract. Drivers are in control of business decisions in a manner not typical of an employee situation. They can decide whether, when, where, and for how long to drive, or whether they want to do other work instead." They also had the ability to and did make decisions around assets, business costs, and organize their own tax affairs.

    Uber accepted in court that drivers didn't have input into the structure. For example, when Uber decided to slash the fares in Auckland and Wellington, it was a bit of a promotion, drivers had no say over that. But they say the drivers know what the platform looks like, they accepted and they use it. They enter into a service agreement, and they act accordingly.

    Workplace Minister Brooke van Velden told Mike Hosking this morning that the Government's looking to make changes to define exactly what it means to be a contractor. She outlined it very, very clearly, and we will get that to you. Basically, she says that the law hasn't really kept up with the new economy. The workplace law hasn't kept up with the new economy. That, you know, the way Uber wasn't around 10 years ago. Airbnb wasn't around 10 years ago, and workplace law hasn't kept up with it. But can you really have your cake and eat it too? If you don't like turning up to the same employer 9am to 5pm, you know what your job is, you know what your hours are, the very regularity of it that makes a job like that so attractive to some people, Makes it a turn off to others. They don't want that regularity in their lives. They want to be free to work when they want to.

    It doesn't seem right that you have your cake and eat it too, does it? Brooke van Velden says she'll make changes. The Supreme Court says Uber has to treat its drivers like employees. Would love to hear from you on this one, especially if you've worked for Uber. I know a number of people have. I ran into an old film director of mine from Television New Zealand days who was driving an Uber. Really enjoyed it. Loved the in effect retired, but still really loved meeting people, kept them out of the house, enjoyed driving, really enjoyed it. All sorts of people have done a bit of Uber.

    Do you feel like an oppressed member of the working classes with the corporate boot on your neck? Did you know what you were getting into when you signed up? And what implication does this have for employers who do use contractors?

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    5 min
  • Nicola Willis: Finance Minister on the Government's plan to boost economic hopes ahead of election
    Nov 17 2025

    New polling data has revealed less Kiwis have faith the current Government can turn the economy around ahead of the upcoming election.

    A New Zealand Herald-Kantar poll has found voters are evenly split on Labour's proposed capital gains tax and about 45 percent of respondents in an IPSOS survey scored the Luxon-led Government below 3 out of 10.

    Finance Minister Nicola Willis says it's clear a significant number of people are still opposed to the capital gains tax and the Government has plenty of time to expose the negative impacts.

    "There's also a big, undecided group in the middle and those are the people that we will be speaking to between now and the election."

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    9 min
  • Why your house shouldn't be your retirement plan
    Nov 17 2025

    Think paying off the family home will have you sorted for retirement? That might have been a solid plan once upon a time, but times have changed and and perhaps your retirement plan should change too.

    Michael Vincent, mortgage director at Lighthouse Financial, joins Nadine to talk the dangers of relying on your house to look after you in later life, and what you should be doing instead.

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    28 min