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This CMO Got Fired Twice, Then Built Better Attribution with Mada Seghete | Horizons Pod

This CMO Got Fired Twice, Then Built Better Attribution with Mada Seghete | Horizons Pod

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 Listen now on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple.—Mada Seghete is the co-founder and CEO of Upside, a B2B revenue attribution pioneer who previously co-founded Branch and grew it to a $4B valuation.Here’s some of my takeaways from this week’s episode…1/ 🎯 The Courage to Let Go: CMO Success is About Team FreedomStrong ICs often micromanage when becoming managers. True leadership means setting clear goals but giving teams freedom to achieve them their way, even if different from your approach. Your way isn't always the best way.2/ 🔍 Attribution is About Understanding, Not CreditAvoid splitting credit between teams. Focus on understanding what actually drives deals forward. Most successful B2B deals involve multiple touchpoints across marketing and sales working together, not siloed efforts.3/ 🕵️ Forensic Attribution > Basic Attribution Traditional attribution models miss critical hidden signals. The real story lies in email chains, meeting transcripts, and untracked events. Build a knowledge graph to reconstruct the full customer journey, including "shadow touchpoints."4/ 🎮 Company Building is Level-Based GamingEach stage requires different skills, and mastering one level doesn't guarantee success in the next. What works at seed stage won't work at Series A. Accept starting from zero with each new phase.5/ 💰 Right-Size Your FundraiseRaising too little forces premature revenue focus. Raising too much creates unrealistic expectations. Find the middle ground that gives enough runway to properly research and validate product-market fit.6/ 🎯 Hire for Team Gaps, Not Just GrowthMap team skills on a 1-5 scale across key functions. Hire first where current team members score lowest, not necessarily where you need the most help overall.7/ 🔄 Inbound vs Outbound: The Quality TradeoffInbound leads often ghost; outbound prospects show higher commitment. While inbound scales better, targeted outbound lets you pursue ideal customers who may not know they need your solution yet.8/ 🎓 Perfect Data is a MythChoose directionally accurate insights you can act on today over waiting months for "perfect" data. Focus on building trust through transparency and clear methodology.—Where to find Mada Seghete:* Company: https://upside.tech/* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/madalina/* X: https://x.com/mada299—In this episode, we cover:00:00 Challenges of Measuring Marketing Impact 05:26 The Journey from Branch to Upside 09:13 Evolution of Attribution Methodology 15:17 Using AI Agents for Data Analysis 21:30 Building the Knowledge Graph 28:37 Lessons from Building Multiple Companies 34:42 Strategic Approaches to Hiring 41:20 Leveraging AI in Marketing 45:55 Venture Capital Strategy 51:21 Finding the Right Co-founders 54:43 Team Building and Role Prioritization 59:10 Leadership Lessons from Gaming 1:02:11 Lightning Round Q&A—Obligatory disclaimer: I've worked at YouTube and Google for about a decade in various marketing teams. Nothing I say in my personal spaces is necessarily endorsed by them. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit horizonspod.substack.com
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