Most people will be haunted by the words “what if?”—but not Sara Haines. She’s the witty and whip smart co-host on The View, former anchor on Good Morning America and Today, Emmy-nominated journalist. In this episode, Sara opens up about the moments the world didn’t see; the less polished parts of her journey—the rejections, pivots, and quiet persistence that led her to one of the most iconic tables in television. Sara shares:

• The real story behind getting on-air at the Today Show (hint: it involves stalking someone on the subway)
• What happened when she finally got her name in the title... and then the show got canceled
• The identity whiplash of going from “fun girl” to “mom content only”
• The unexpected moment that nearly made her walk away from TV
• The emotional toll of being praised, passed over, and pigeonholed
• Her dream to be on Saturday Night Live and the moment she was actually parodied on it
• The surprising advice her husband gave that set her free: “Let go of the dream you never actually had”
• Why “being the person who tries” is her life’s north star.
• Featuring cameos from: Kristen Cavallari, Hoda & Kathie Lee, Kiki Palmer, Chris Brown, and a surprisingly pivotal moment with a Facebook intern.
• What it really means to try: when no one’s watching, when the outcome is uncertain, and when the voice in your head says “you’re not good enough.”

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