If you've just returned from summer holidays feeling like you need another break already, or you're currently in pre-holiday cramming mode, this episode is perfectly timed.

Chloe opens up about being a reformed "holiday ninja" who used to obsessively map out the year to maximise time off, negotiate for more holiday days instead of pay rises, and land at 6am to go straight to work. Sound familiar?

But here's the uncomfortable truth: if you're constantly needing to escape your work, the real problem isn't that you need better holidays — it's that you need work you don't need to escape from.

You'll hear:

• Why the "just survive until my holiday" mentality guarantees you'll immediately need another one
• The three drivers of intrinsic motivation that make work feel like play (from Daniel Pink's "Drive")
• How to integrate holiday energy into your normal week instead of living boom-bust cycles
• Why leaders desperately need thinking space (and how over a third admit they don't create it)
• Chloe's new community experiment: weekly "CoThink sessions" for protected thinking time

This isn't about working less or taking fewer holidays. It's about creating work you love and building sustainable recovery into normal life, so holidays become a bonus, not a desperate necessity.

Mentioned resources:

• Daniel Pink's "Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us": https://www.danpink.com/books/drive/
• The Leader that Lasts Community (where we host the Co-Think Sessions): https://www.skool.com/the-leader-that-lasts-9742/about

Connect with Chloe:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-temple/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leadershipwithchloe/

Join the thinking space revolution: https://www.skool.com/the-leader-that-lasts-9742/about

Listen now if you're tired of the countdown-to-holiday cycle and ready to build work that energises rather than depletes you.

Ever felt like you were failing more than winning? You’re not alone.

In this raw and honest episode, Chloe opens up about the brutal realities behind her first four years in business — the flops, the rejections, and the moments she almost threw in the towel.

From silent webinars to ghosted LinkedIn DMs, she shares what it really means to build resilience when your self-worth has always been tied to achievement and "getting it right."

You'll learn:

• Why non-attachment is critical if you want to keep going when things flop.
• The power of adaptability and why pivoting faster might save your energy (and sanity).
• How cultivating a growth mindset (à la Carol Dweck and Sarah Blakely’s lessons) is non-negotiable for leaders.
• Why self-compassion is the secret ingredient to bouncing back stronger.

Plus, Chloe shares the real story behind her failed brand experiment ("The Ultimate Offsite") and the small rejections that stung more than the big flops.

If you’ve ever felt knocked down by setbacks or scared of putting yourself out there because of what might not work, this episode will feel like a warm (but firm) hug.

Mentioned resources:

• Carol Dweck’s research on growth mindset
• Sarah Blakely’s childhood failure stories
• Amazon's culture of experimentation

🎧 Listen now and learn to lead yourself through failure rather than letting it define you.

Connect with Chloe:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-temple/

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leadershipwithchloe/

Or check out our leader that lasts accelerator: https://www.popprovides.com/accelerator

Could AI replace your team — or maybe even you?

After her full-time team member left, Chloe decided not to rush to hire. Instead, she launched a three-month experiment to see how far AI could support her solo.

In this episode, Chloe shares in real time (not after it's all polished) what it feels like to lean into AI tools instead of humans, and the messy emotions that come with it.

You’ll hear:

• What tools Chloe’s testing (and why they might surprise you).
• The difference between using AI to automate vs. abdicate responsibility.
• The hidden risks of using AI as a sneaky new form of procrastination.
• Why embracing AI doesn’t mean giving up your humanity — it might actually help you reclaim it.
• Thoughts on the leaked memos from Shopify and Fiverr CEOs that are changing how teams think about AI today.

This is not a “how to” guide. It’s a behind-the-scenes invitation to watch a recovering perfectionist experiment live, with no guaranteed outcomes.

Mentioned resources:

• Shopify CEO memo on AI
• Fiverr CEO memo on AI
• Steven Bartlett’s “Behind the Diary” episode
• Tools: ChatGPT, Claude, Perplexity, Superhuman, Motion, Descript

🎧 Listen now to explore what it really looks like to lead through tech change and future-proof your own work.

Connect with Chloe:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-temple/

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leadershipwithchloe/

Or check out our leader that lasts accelerator: https://www.popprovides.com/accelerator