Fantastic!

Exactly the sort of apologetic needed in our current cultural malaise. This is a masterwork that is entirely scrutable to any honest seeker.

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A well thought out presentation

An articulate and evidence supported treatise on making sense of God. Deep and Brilliant and gripping.

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Clarity

After Reading "Reason for God", many questions still remained. I feel this book more accurately meets the underlying question skeptics and those struggling to grasp there faith have. Keller addresses concerns that I hear in my personal community and in culture today. I plan to read again.

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life changing

This staggering shift in the "argument for God" is as much for lifetime believers as it must be for lifetime non-believers. It spoke to my intellect, emotion and the historical narrative some of us have adopted that is contrary to the truth we witness and experience in our lives - chiefly, the lies we tell ourselves to cover for unchallenged beliefs instead of putting those beliefs to the test, though our very lives may depend on them.

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Loved it!

Such a positive and earnest appeal to search out and try to comprehend the veracity of the Christian claims in Christ, for who God is and where we fit in life, the universe, and everything.

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Good for confirming existing beliefs...

This book wasn’t for you, but who do you think might enjoy it more?

Christians who want their beliefs confirmed, or those who are on the fence but are more inclined toward being convinced.

Would you ever listen to anything by Timothy Keller again?

Yes. I have also read The Reason for God.

Have you listened to any of Sean Pratt’s other performances before? How does this one compare?

I think so. He sounded familiar. He has a very soothing, calm voice.

Any additional comments?

The moral argument comes up over and over in this book, but Keller's arguments do not really address the better thought out counter arguments. Instead, they beg the question.

The best example of this is the final chapter of the book, where Keller basically tries to make the case that morality cannot be defended rationally on the basis of self interest.

But wait... does that mean morality is irrational? He stops short of saying that outright, but it is what this type of argument implies.

Actually, Keller does not really attempt to refute the rational arguments for morality. Instead, what Keller argues is the empirical case that most people will not choose to be moral when given only rational, intellectual arguments for morality. Essentially, that people are too self-interested to be self-interested(!)

But this says nothing about the actual philosophical status of morality or the existence of God. This is just a way of saying that people are short-sighted and not generally insightful enough to grasp that morality actually is in their self interest!

This is something that Keller and I can probably agree on. But it is not a sound argument for God or against a rational understanding of morality. It is merely an argument about human psychology and what drives people.

It is easy to imagine that humans have developed ideas, creeds, and emotional responses that help us cooperate and behave in ways that are rational and mutually beneficial where our intellect and short-sightedness would otherwise fail us. But this does not imply that morality cannot be explained without a god.

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Great content, terrible choice in performer

I love Tim’s books and sermons. I had an incredibly hard time getting through this book however. The performer put me to sleep!

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respectful, reasonable and compelling

highly engaging, educational. and helpful for understanding oneself and our complicated world. a great listen or read!

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Good Book

A different narator would be my opinion for Keller's books my suggestions would be T.Keller, Kate Reading, Grove Gardener, William Neenam, Ralph Lister. Any of the above I think would be great!

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Finished - worth it!

My life got hectic in the middle of this book but I kept coming back to it to catch yet another nugget of truth. I bought the book to refer to chapters and passages I want to know deeply in my soul.
Chapter 9 The knowledge of God with sections on Moral Obligation was a chapter I kept returning to listen to as it points out great truths.
Another great “ah ha” moments for me was page 189 The Threat of Grace and the dynamics of grace and gratitude. Our desire to please the God who loves us enough to show us grace.
Took me awhile to get through it but the time was well spent.