Not worth the time

He requires a tremendous amount of multiple accounts to support the story of Jesus however allows only speculation to disprove these facts from the Bible. Seemed to me he was only interested in casting doubt. Not good.

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Authoritative

If you've read Reza Aslan's book on Jesus, or Bill O'Reilly's, and want to see a recognized expert on the historical Jesus at work, check this out. It's not current; comments on the audio make it clear that it was recorded pre-2000; but it's aged well, and to date remains the most comprehensive summary of the subject available on audio.

Bart Ehrman has strong opinions on the subject, and he's not shy about voicing them here. But he returns again and again to the historical evidence and to the methodologies historians have developed for dealing with that evidence. These are the footnotes Aslan left out (and the ones Bill O'Reilly, in his rush to market, never bothered to look up). Ehrman's lectures are solidly grounded and delivered with the enthusiasm of someone who loves what he's doing.

About those strong opinions. Jesus was, says Ehrman, a millennial prophet (that was, in fact, the title of one of his first books on Jesus). Jesus expected God to intervene in history in his own lifetime and bring about the Kingdom, a Kingdom in which Jesus himself expected to play a prominent role. He expected his 12 disciples to play significant but subordinate roles: in Ehrman's view, statements made by Jesus about his disciples judging people from the four corners of the earth are to be taken literally as a description of his agenda. Unfortunately - says Ehrman - Jesus was wrong, and his mission was a failure.

This isn't the Jesus most believers want to hear about, but it's the Jesus who appears from a dispassionate examination of the evidence. It's the Jesus most consistent with the work of John the Baptist who preceded him and the apostle Paul who followed him. It's the Jesus of mainstream New Testament scholarship and has been so for a hundred years.

Traditionalists aren't the only ones whose ox is gored by Ehrman. The Jesus Seminar - a group that argued Jesus was an inoffensive philosopher of the Greek Cynic persuasion - comes in for a strong dose of forensic dissection. John Dominic Crossan's reliance on the gospels of Thomas and Peter is discussed and criticized at length. Scholars who argue for a multilayered "Q" document, earlier layers of which are non-millennial, are resoundingly refuted. Over and over again, Ehrman demonstrates how the view of Jesus as a millennial prophet makes better sense of more evidence than any of the rival views.

Every statement Ehrman makes in this "great course" is backed up by citations of evidence, a clear explanation of pros and cons, and careful reasoning. I'm not sure this is the first place to look if you want an easy introduction to the subject, but if your appetite is already whetted, Ehrman will give you a well researched and coherent vision of Jesus.

(Last time I'll say this, though: Great Courses - please - enough with the canned applause already.)

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A compelling case for JC as an apocalyptic prophet

These lectures are fantastic. I couldn't get enough. Dr. Ehrman builds a very well-reasoned and carefully constructed case which explains how the historical evidence for JC clearly depicts him as an apocalyptcist.

I am thoroughly agnostic, and listened to this because I realized I had no good reason to believe that Jesus was God, but I also could not satisfactorily explain him any other way. After reading some Christian apologetics, like Lee Strobel's "Case for Christ," I didn't feel satisfied, so I pursued a more "scholarly" route.

Ehrman is a great narrator with solid facts. He doesn't appear to suffer heavily from confirmation bias, as do the militant atheists and Christian apologeticists. I am happy with what I have taken away from this series, and would highly recommend it to anyone dissatisfied with their knowledge of the historical (rather than purely theological) validity of the accounts of Jesus' life.

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Not bad, but not great.

Ehrman has covered much of the same material in several of his other books and/or courses in a better manner. If this is the first Ehrman course that an interested listener hears, then probably that listener will be satisfied. However, I was somewhat disappointed, mainly because some of his other books and courses are better. Also, I thought the last lecture did not belong in a course regarding the "historical Jesus." The last lecture was interesting, but not relevant to the course as a whole. I'm now about to begin another Ehrman audio book; hopefully it will be better. I find him fascinating and informative.

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Should be re-titled

"The historical Jesus from an apocalyptic perspective"
This book provides great historical references, however, near the end of the book, prof. Ehrman goes on a wild goose chase on how he thinks Jesus was an apocalyptic prophet. This would have been an all-round five star rating if there was less opinion and more hard historical evidence. But, all in all, this was a very informative lecture that went over most (if not all) of the available historical texts that make mention of Jesus. First half of this lecture gets 5/5 stars.

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Not what I thought it would be

Would you listen to The Historical Jesus again? Why?

No, The information was great. Prof. Ehrman's discuss in length methodology and historical criteria used by scholars and historians. Most of the lecture was spent looking at discrepancies in gospels. It was very interesting, just not what I thought it would be.

How would you have changed the story to make it more enjoyable?

Reading is not always about enjoy. I would be nice to include recent facts (if it is possible) discoveries, hypothesis about historical Jesus.

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Scrupulous Examination of the Historical Record

Would you recommend this audiobook to a friend? If so, why?

This was a thoroughly fascinating listen. Anyone with an interest in what history can say about the life of Jesus would love these lectures although those with an unshakeable theological agenda may have difficulty with Professor Erhman's historical perspective.

What did you like best about this story?

Myth and contradictions obscure our sense of who the real Jesus was. For one thing, the sources can be clouded by the agenda of the writer. Furthermore many of us come to the subject with agendas of our own. Professor Erhman meticulously describes the criteria used by the historian to evaluate the record. Then he patiently examines that record (biblical and non-biblical) to create a picture of the world in which Jesus lived and the task which Professor Erhman believes the Jesus of history hoped to accomplish. Professor Erhman then explores the way in which the death of Jesus compelled his followers to re-evaluate that task and re-make the message and meaning of Jesus's life and teaching.

Which scene was your favorite?

This isn't a novel so the question doesn't apply. But I think that my favorite part was the convincing case Professor Erhman makes for an apocalyptic Jesus.

Was this a book you wanted to listen to all in one sitting?

I wandered everywhere I could in my daily life with my earphones in so that I could keep listening. I do regret that I am not one of Professor Erhman's students because, as I became so engaged with the topic, I began to want to ask questions myself and explore the topic further.

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Disappointing

Professor Moreover confuses advocacy with analysis, speculation with evidence. Moreover, he applies his own historical criteria selectively and, at times, inconsistently. Moreover, I wanted more objectivity and less “here is why I am right”. Moreover, I was disappointed, especially compared to many other Great Courses. Moreover, waaay too much use of “moreover”.

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Great History of time and place

As a Christian I was glad to listen to this historical view of Jesus. This does not attack my faith and explains well the Historical Approach.

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Put off by his personal agenda

There are a lot of good things that Professor Ehrman presents and a lot of not so good things he presents in this lecture series. What I expected when I bought this was a scholarly, unbiased overview of the historical man of Jesus. You definitely receive some scholarly research on the sources and a peek into methodology of research the historical Jesus. BUT... you definitely do not receive an unbiased analysis of the information provided.

For example, he spends much of the first few lectures preparing you to free your mind of your belief and preparing you for the nature of scholarly work. Yet, as you start moving through the material, more and more he pushes his agenda and beliefs and fails to show other views. He will get on his soapbox and rant for several lectures on his opinion on who he believes Jesus was without any other views or opinions on who Jesus could have been.

I feel that at points in this lecture series, he is more concerned with proving that his view of Jesus is right then actually portraying a complete or accurate picture of what Jesus might have been like.

With that said, if you can approach this lecture series as he prepares you (with an open mind and ready to think critically), there are several things that you can take away whether you are a Christian or not.

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