Beyond Substance

Auteur(s): Dean Babcock and Jodi Miller
  • Résumé

  • Beyond Substance deepens the understanding of our listeners about substance use in Indiana, specifically the problems and solutions to address these issues and to highlight that there is hope and share what can be done to foster and support recovery in our community.
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Épisodes
  • Knowledge is Power
    May 1 2025
    In this episode of Beyond Substance, hosts Dean Babcock and Jodi Miller explore the critical intersection of research, personal experience, and community support in addressing substance use and recovery. They engage with experts Dr. Brad Ray and Dr. Katrina "Kat" Thomas, who share insights on drug trends, the impact of overdose data, and the importance of empathy and education in combating stigma. The conversation emphasizes the need for harm reduction strategies, the role of naloxone, and the power of personal stories in fostering hope and resilience within communities.

    Segment 1
    Dr. Brad Ray is a Senior Researcher at RTI International with a PhD in Sociology and Anthropology who conducts research at the intersection of public health and public safety that is aimed at overdose prevention. His training includes multiple quantitative and qualitative methodologies, and he has been the principal investigator on grants from the National Institutes on Health, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the National Science Foundation, and the National Institute of Justice. He has conducted numerous randomized trials, integrated large statewide datasets to identify overdose touchpoints, and studied the implementation of multiple harm reduction strategies. Dr. Ray also oversees technical assistance to state governments to implement programming at the intersection of public health and public safety systems.

    Segment 2
    In this conversation, Dr. Katrina "Kat" Thomas shares her personal journey through substance use and recovery, highlighting the impact of trauma and the importance of seeking help. She discusses her transition from personal struggles to a professional career in counseling and advocacy, emphasizing the evolving landscape of substance use and the need for community support. Dr. Kat addresses the stigma surrounding addiction and the misconceptions that persist, ultimately encouraging listeners to seek reliable resources and never give up hope.

    Takeaways
    • Fentanyl has taken over the illegal opioid market.
    • The transition from heroin to fentanyl has changed drug use dynamics.
    • Drug seizures can lead to increased overdose risks.
    • Naloxone distribution is crucial for overdose prevention.
    • Listening to people with lived experience is vital for effective interventions.
    • Stigma surrounding substance use continues to be a major barrier.
    • Radical empathy is essential in service work.

    Chapters
    00:00 Opening
    01:55 Understanding Drug Trends and Overdose Data
    04:58 The Role of Research in Public Health
    10:03 The Impact of Drug Seizures on Overdoses
    14:51 Innovative Approaches to Harm Reduction
    19:55 Dispelling Myths About Substance Use
    25:06 The Journey of Recovery and Resilience
    30:07 Advocacy and the Power of Personal Experience
    35:13 The Importance of Community Support
    40:01 Looking Ahead: Future Conversations on Recovery

    Hosted by Dean Babcock and Jodi Miller
    Interview Segment Producer: Angela Shamblin
    Personal Story Producer: Shawn P Neal
    Executive Producer: Shawn P Neal
    Mixed at AvoCast Studio236

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    51 min
  • The Impact of Substance Use Disorder on Pregnancy
    Mar 1 2025
    This episode of Beyond Substance explores the complex and often misunderstood topic of substance use disorder during pregnancy and beyond. Hosts Dean Babcock talks with expert Dr. Camila Arnado and Jodi Miller talks with Ashna Clark.

    Segment 1: Co-Host Dean Babcock talks with Dr. Camila Arnaudo. Dr. Arnaudo shares her journey as an addiction psychiatrist, her insights on the complexities of substance use among pregnant individuals, and the evolving trends in substance use. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the risks involved and the need for supportive care for pregnant individuals facing substance use disorders. This conversation delves into the complexities of substance use during and after pregnancy, highlighting the critical postpartum period where risks of relapse and overdose increase.

    Segment 2: In our personal story, Co-Host Jodi Miller welcomes Ashna Clark. Ashna shares her profound journey through addiction, motherhood, and recovery. She reflects on her challenging childhood, early pregnancies, and the difficult decisions she made, including giving her first child up for adoption. Ashna discusses her struggles with substance abuse, the turning points that led her to seek help, and the importance of community support in her recovery. Now a child advocate, she emphasizes the significance of being a present and loving mother, while also offering hope and encouragement to others facing similar challenges.

    Takeaways
    • There are significant barriers to treatment for pregnant women with substance use disorders.
    • The postpartum period presents unique challenges and risks for mothers in recovery.
    • Stigma and fear of judgment prevent many from seeking help.
    • Mothers often love their children deeply, despite their struggles with addiction.
    • The relationship between mother and baby can motivate recovery efforts.
    • Compassionate care is essential in treating substance use disorders during pregnancy.

    Chapters
    00:00 Introduction to Substance Use Disorder and Pregnancy
    03:08 Understanding the Statistics and Challenges
    06:01 Expert Insights from Dr. Camila Arnado
    12:12 The Complexities of Substance Use During Pregnancy
    17:50 The Postpartum Period: Risks and Realities
    23:59 Stigma and Barriers to Seeking Help
    30:00 Ashna Clark's Journey: A Personal Story of Recovery
    42:03 Hope and Support: Building a New Life
    45:52 Conclusion and Future Discussions

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    49 min
  • From Seatbelts to Recovery: Harm Reduction Saves Lives
    Jan 1 2025
    In this episode of the Beyond Substance Podcast, hosts Dean Babcock and Jody Miller explore the transformative power of harm reduction in addressing substance use disorders. They engage in insightful conversations with Erika Chapman from the Indiana State Department of Health and Aisha Diss, founder of project.ME, discussing the importance of meeting individuals where they are, the impact of stigma, and the various forms of harm reduction available.

    Segment 1: In this enlightening conversation, Dean speaks with Erika Chapman, MPH, CPH, CHES. Erika serves as the Harm Reduction Program Manager at the Indiana Department of Health (IDOH) in the Division of HIV, STI, and Viral Hepatitis. They explore the concept of harm reduction, particularly focusing on non-syringe harm reduction programs, which provide essential resources and support to individuals affected by substance use disorders. Erica shares her background, the importance of reducing stigma, and how communities can implement harm reduction strategies. Ms. Chapman has been with IDOH since 2006 and has previously served in the roles of HIV Prevention Specialist, Viral Hepatitis Prevention Coordinator, and Surveillance Coordinator.

    Segment 2: Aisha Diss shares her inspiring journey of recovery from addiction and her experiences with the criminal justice system. She discusses her early life, the trauma she faced, and how it led her to a path of substance use. Aisha reflects on her time in prison, the challenges she encountered, and the pivotal moments that motivated her to change her life. She emphasizes the importance of healing, education, and community support in her recovery journey, ultimately leading to the founding of project.ME, an initiative aimed at helping others in similar situations. Aisha Diss shares her journey into coaching and harm reduction, emphasizing the importance of supporting individuals in their recovery journey without judgment.

    Episode Links:
    • https://www.in.gov/health/hiv-std-viral-hepatitis/home/
    • https://www.projectme-fw.org/


    Takeaways:
    • Harm reduction is more than a public health strategy.
    • Non-syringe harm reduction provides essential resources.
    • Harm reduction is a public health theory that reduces risk.
    • Stigma is a significant barrier to seeking help.
    • Compassionate conversations can save lives.

    Chapters:
    00:00 The Power of Storytelling in Recovery
    03:05 Understanding Harm Reduction
    05:51 Non-Syringe Harm Reduction Explained
    08:55 Everyday Examples of Harm Reduction
    11:57 The Role of Stigma in Substance Use
    15:09 Grants and Community Support for Harm Reduction
    17:59 Asha Dis: A Journey of Resilience
    20:46 Transformative Impact of Harm Reduction Programs
    24:12 Building Community and Support
    26:58 The Importance of Dignity and Respect
    30:01 Practical Steps for Community Involvement
    32:55 The Future of Harm Reduction
    35:53 Conclusion: Walking Each Other Home

    Hosted by Dean Babcock and Jodi Miller
    Interview Segment Producer: Angela Shamblin
    Personal Story Producer: Shawn P Neal
    Executive Producer: Shawn P Neal
    Mixed at AvoCast Studio236

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    50 min

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