What if the death of a marriage isn’t the end of your story but the beginning of redemption? Stasi welcomes Lysa TerKeurst and Dr. Joel Muddamalle for an honest conversation about sorrow, loss, courage, and healing as they discuss their new book, Surviving an Unwanted Divorce. In every moment of our lives, the painful and the promising, our hearts are held by our faithful, loving God who walks with us to hope and wholeness.

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VERSES:

Malachi 2:16 (NIV) – ‘The man who hates and divorces his wife,’ says the Lord, the God of Israel, ‘does violence to the one he should protect,’ says the Lord Almighty. So be on your guard, and do not be unfaithful.”

Genesis 50:20 (NIV) – You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done, the saving of many lives.

Romans 12:18 (NIV) – If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.

John 15:13 (NIV) – Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.

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GUESTS

Lysa TerKeurst is the president and chief visionary officer of Proverbs 31 Ministries and the author of eight New York Times bestsellers, including “I Want to Trust You, But I Don’t”; “Good Boundaries and Goodbyes”; “Forgiving What You Can’t Forget”; and “It’s Not Supposed to Be This Way”. Lysa is now remarried. She and her husband, Chaz, enjoy life with their blended family of 7 kids and a whole crew of really fun grandkids. Connect with her at LysaTerKeurst.com or on social media @LysaTerKeurst.

Joel Muddamalle holds a PhD in theology and serves as the director of theology and research at Proverbs 31 Ministries. He co-hosts the Therapy & Theology podcast with Lysa TerKeurst. Since the podcast started in the fall of 2022, more than 5-million episodes have been downloaded, making it one of the most popular podcasts available. Joel is a frequent speaker for churches, conferences, and events. In 2024 he released his first book, “The Hidden Peace: Finding True Security, Strength, and Confidence Through Humility”. Based in Charlotte, North Carolina, Joel and his wife enjoy a full house with their four children and German Shepherd, Lady. Connect with Joel on Instagram at @muddamalle or muddamalle.com

GUEST RESOURCES

Surviving an Unwanted Divorce: A Biblical, Practical Guide to Letting Go While Holding Yourself Together by Lysa TerKeurst with Dr. Joel Muddamalle and Jim Cress https://wahe.art/4hIxmQB

Therapy & Theology Podcast — with Lysa TerKeurst, Dr. Joel Muddamalle, and Jim Cress https://proverbs31.org/listen/therapy-and-theology

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How do we deepen our union and communion with Jesus in everyday life? In part two, Stasi and Elaine share practical ways to cultivate intimacy with God by learning to rest, listen, and walk with him moment by moment through Scripture, prayer, worship, and the quiet turning of our hearts toward love.

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If you haven’t listened to Part 1, you can do so here:

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VERSES:

Matthew 11:28 (NIV) – Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.

1 Peter 5:7 (NIV) – Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you.

John 10:27 (NIV) – My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.

John 15:15 (NIV) – I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends…

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Stasi & Elaine’s Go-To Resources for Drawing Closer to God

Book: Experience Jesus. Really: Finding Refuge, Strength, and Wonder through Everyday Encounters with God by John Eldredge ⁠https://amzn.to/4jEwBZ7⁠

Book: Resilient: Restoring Your Weary Soul in These Turbulent Times by John Eldredge ⁠https://amzn.to/4ose0RV⁠

The Pause App – specifically the Experience Jesus 20-day program ⁠https://www.pauseapp.com/⁠

Worship: Stasi’s spotify playlist ⁠https://wahe.art/47d6p2s⁠

Book: Opening the Divine Treasure Chest: Your Pathway into God's Presence by Eric Gilmour ⁠https://amzn.to/48EHffH⁠

Book: Love Him: He lives where He is loved by Eric Gilmour ⁠https://amzn.to/4nX146F⁠

Book: To His Feet: A Call to Be Lambs by Eric Gilmour ⁠https://amzn.to/4nUKlkh⁠

Book: Ekklesia Rising: Visitations from Jesus Revealing the Truth and Power of Who We Really Are by Liz Wright (Book) ⁠https://amzn.to/4orH1Nr⁠ or (App) ⁠https://lizwright.org/shop/ekklesia-rising-activations⁠

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ADDITIONAL RESOURCES

Wild at Heart App – ⁠https://wildatheart.org/app⁠

William Augusto – Instrumental Worship Music ⁠https://wahe.art/48GgAPs⁠

The Imitation of Christ by Thomas à Kempis –Quoted: “Turn to God with all your heart and you will see the kingdom of God come to you…” ⁠https://amzn.to/4otMhjG⁠

Henri J.M. Nouwen – Life of the Beloved – Quoted: “Our inclination is to show our Lord only what we feel comfortable with. But the more we dare to reveal our whole trembling self, the more we are able to sense that His love, which is perfect love, casts out our fears.”

Jeanne Guyon – Quoted: “Prayer is nothing else but the sense of the presence of God. It is the enjoyment of God Himself, and the deepest union of the soul with Him.”

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When life feels busy or uncertain, how do we return to the One who dwells within where his presence is the quiet center of our days? Join Stasi and her guest, Elaine Supple, as they talk about union and communion—turning inward to the little heaven of our souls and discovering an intimacy with Jesus that changes everything.

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VERSES:

Psalm 84:2 (NIV) – My soul yearns, even faints, for the courts of the Lord; my heart and my flesh cry out for the living God.

Psalm 42:1 (NIV) – As the deer pants for streams of water, so my soul pants for you, my God.

John 17:21 (NIV) – That all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

Philippians 4:7 (NIV) – And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

John 15:4–5 (NIV) – Remain in me, as I also remain in you... apart from me you can do nothing.

1 Corinthians 6:19 (NIV) – Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit...?

Matthew 11:28 (NIV) – Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.

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RESOURCES

Wild at Heart Podcast – John Eldredge’s weekly podcast ⁠https://wildatheart.org/podcast⁠

Wild at Heart App – A free resource offering daily prayers, guided sessions, and tools to help you align your heart with the truths of God’s Kingdom. ⁠https://wildatheart.org/app⁠

Quoted excerpt – The Meaning of Being a Christian by Frederick Buechner – “Every morning you should wake up and ask yourself, can I believe it all again today?” ⁠ ⁠⁠https://wahe.art/4q3x0rt⁠

Quoted excerpt – The Interior Castle by Teresa of Ávila: “Give me the grace to recollect myself in the little heaven of my soul, where You have established Your dwelling. There let me find You… There I feel You are closer to me than anywhere else.” ⁠https://wahe.art/4nR1sDM⁠

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