Recorded live at Meow Wolf in Santa Fe, this episode features a wide-ranging conversation between Todd and Andy Baker about learning, safety culture, and leadership influence.

They dig into HOP and related safety approaches, debate top-down versus middle-out change, discuss the importance of language and unlearning, and explore how to turn belief into practical skill and behavior.

The episode offers real-world insights on piloting change, engaging leaders and middle managers, and learning from others who have adapted these ideas in novel ways.

Tiny Todd Conklin joins the No Way Out podcast to explore Human and Organizational Performance (HOP), high-reliability organizing, and how safety emerges from complex systems rather than individual mistakes.

They critique traditional investigations, surveys, and risk matrices, and discuss practical ideas for building capacity, worker agency, psychological safety, and resilient operations.

This episode examines the growing problem of children accidentally left in hot cars, explains why memory failures can happen to anyone, and argues that punishment is not the solution.

It summarizes practical approaches—accepting the risk, assuming "when, not if," using technology and visual reminders, and responding with understanding rather than judgment—to create system-level changes that improve recoverability and prevent future tragedies.

Todd talks with Lauren Mooney about her book High Reliability in Action and how to translate HRO concepts into practical behaviors. They cover the rise of HRO, the 'Speaking In' approach, nine guiding questions, and the animal avatars that represent attitudes like humility, courage, and curiosity.

The episode emphasizes leadership’s role, DIY team practices for recognizing risk, responding early, and adapting effectively across industries—from frontline staff to executives.

This episode of the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast features patient safety leader Lisa Zegan, host of Tales from the Sharp End, in a candid conversation with Todd about the 2017 Vanderbilt medication error and what it reveals about healthcare systems.

They explore why criminalizing mistakes harms learning, how design and billing pressures shape medication cabinets and workflows, the limits of “zero harm,” and the case for recoverability/rescuability, cross-industry learning, and leadership-driven transparency across hospitals.

Join Todd as he delves into a captivating discussion with Tom Krause, founder of Behavioral Science Technology, on the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast. This episode unravels the evolution of safety protocols from traditional behavioral-based approaches to modern leadership-driven strategies.

Krause shares his journey from pioneering behavioral-based safety techniques to exploring the pivotal role leaders play in mitigating catastrophic events. The conversation highlights the significance of leadership decision-making in shaping organizational culture and safety outcomes.

Discover how historical safety models have informed current practices and gain insights into the challenges and advancements in the safety domain, all set against the vibrant backdrop of their meeting in Santa Fe. Tune in to uncover these transformative ideas and the evolving landscape of workplace safety.

Welcome to an engaging episode of the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast with your host Todd Conklin. In this episode, Todd delves into a thought-provoking discussion about the evolving role of AI in our workplaces and lives with guest expert Dox Brown, also known as Drew. Together, they explore the intricacies of artificial intelligence beyond surveillance products, focusing on its positive potential as a strategic partner in understanding and enhancing human tasks.

Throughout this conversation, Dox Brown, an enthusiast in AI's educational implications, shares insights into how AI can augment human roles rather than replace them. Discover AI's capability to handle large data analysis, predict patterns, and assist in creative processes, transforming how we interact with technology in our day-to-day routines.

This episode challenges common fears by offering a refreshing perspective on AI's role as a tool of kindness and empathy, encouraging a broader dialogue about its place in future workplaces. Tune in for a fascinating journey into how AI may redefine human-oriented work and what it truly means to collaborate with intelligent systems.

Welcome to the latest episode of the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast, hosted by Todd Conklin. In this engaging discussion, Todd chats with Jennifer Long about their unexpected journey in writing "Workers Are the Solution, Not the Problem: A Guidebook for Leading Differently." The conversation delves into the transformative insights they discovered about leadership, accountability, and how the evolving workforce requires fresh approaches.

Throughout the episode, Todd and Jennifer explore how traditional views on leadership and workforce development are outdated, urging leaders to see workers as solutions rather than problems. They share their experiences and learning moments that shifted their paradigms and offer guidance for navigating the chaotic and unpredictable modern business environment.

Join Todd and Jennifer as they reflect on their collaborative process and the critical lessons from their book, offering valuable perspectives for leaders aiming to adapt and thrive in today's dynamic world.