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  • Episode 237: MSPs: What it really means when a prospect says no
    May 27 2024
    The podcast powered by the MSP Marketing Edge

    Welcome to this week’s episode of the MSP Marketing Podcast with me, Paul Green. This is THE show if you want to grow your MSP.

    In this episode I reflect on what it really means when a prospect says “no”. Often it actually means “not yet”. Building trust over time through multiple touchpoints can transform rejections into future opportunities. (jump to)

    I also face the truth that I’ve lived over half my life – this has sparked an urgency in my business practices. What if you had just one year to achieve your goals? This motivates me to act decisively, how about you? (jump to)

    In my chat with Brian Gillette, we explore how lunch and learn events effectively turn attendees into clients by focusing on relationship building over direct sales. Have you tried these events for your MSP? They’re challenging but worth it. (jump to)

    Lastly, I tackle a question from Ryan, who owns a fairly new and fairly small MSP in Chicago, about valuing employees when budgets are tight. I suggest non-monetary ways to value employees, like recognising efforts, providing personalised rewards, and offering growth opportunities – enhancing team morale and loyalty. (jump to)

    Join me as we unpack these topics and learn from some triumphs and trials in the MSP world. Oh, and don’t forget to join me in the MSP Marketing Facebook group.

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    What it really means when a prospect says no

    In the competitive world of business, especially in sales, a “no” from a prospect often stings, feeling like a personal rejection. This reaction isn’t just common among entrepreneurs – it’s practically universal, and understandably so. Many of us see our businesses as extensions of ourselves, so a refusal can feel deeply personal. However, in my experience, a “no” often means “not now – I don’t trust you yet,” rather than a flat-out rejection.

    Trust is the linchpin in the relationship between clients and MSPs. Prospective clients are acutely aware that a wrong choice in MSP can lead to catastrophic outcomes for their business, which makes them extremely cautious. They often stick with underperforming MSPs simply because of familiarity, which feels safer than venturing into unknown territory.

    To turn a “no” into a future “yes,” it’s essential to build trust long before the sales pitch. This means engaging with potential clients through multiple touchpoints – social media, newsletters, emails, and more. Each interaction is a step towards building a relationship that fosters trust.

    Consider a prospect who has interacted with your brand 30 to 40 times before seriously considering your services. They’ve consumed your content and know your ethos. By the time they’re ready to switch MSPs, you’re not just another option; you’re a familiar, trusted entity. This doesn’t guarantee conversion, but it significantly enhances your chances.

    Ultimately, every decline – whether due to concerns about cost, service suitability, or company size – boils down to a lack of trust. Effective MSPs must focus on becoming known and reliable long before the decision

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    36 min
  • Episode 236: Is break/fix outdated… or a valid marketing tactic?
    May 20 2024
    The podcast powered by the MSP Marketing Edge

    Welcome to this week’s episode of the MSP Marketing Podcast with me, Paul Green. This is THE show if you want to grow your MSP.

    In this episode I weigh up the relevance of the traditional break/fix model versus managed services. Is break/fix just an outdated concept, or can it still serve as a valuable marketing tool in our contract-driven market? (jump to)

    I also investigate what truly measures success for business owners. Drawing from my 19 years of experience, we’ll explore how consistent marketing actions can transform ambitious plans into tangible achievements. (jump to)

    Jeff Newton from REDiTECH joins me as this week’s guest and shares his unique experience of overwhelming marketing success. Jeff’s insights highlight the importance of robust processes and the need for perseverance and adaptability in marketing strategies after setbacks. (jump to)

    Lastly, I’ve introduced a brand new element to the Podcast – Paul’s Personal Peer Group – where I endeavour to answer your personal MSP marketing questions. This week we hear from Scott in Florida who is considering the viability of Facebook advertising but is concerned about the return on investment. Find out whether this could be right for you. (jump to)

    Join me as we unpack these topics and learn from some triumphs and trials in the MSP world. Oh, and don’t forget to join me in the MSP Marketing Facebook group.

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    Is break/fix outdated… or a valid marketing tactic?

    Once the go-to strategy, the break/fix business model, where MSPs fix tech issues as they arise, now shares the stage with the managed services model, which emphasises ongoing support and monthly recurring revenue (MRR).

    Despite its old-school vibe, some MSPs still cling to break/fix as a crucial marketing tactic. They argue it’s a way to introduce their services, offering a taste that could potentially convert to more stable, contractual relationships.

    But how does this strategy hold up in the modern MSP landscape? I reached out to the 2,300 members of my MSP Marketing Facebook group to get their take, and the responses were eye-opening. For some, offering small break/fix services is a proven method to win clients over in the early growth stages, to a tipping point where only MRR makes sense. Others have moved away from break/fix unless it’s part of a broader security audit or leads directly to an MRR contract.

    This diverse range of strategies highlights a critical decision point for MSPs: is break/fix a smart business lever to pull for sampling services, or is it a relic best left in the past? Your strategy might just shape the future of your business in the ever-evolving MSP market.

    Is break/fix outdated… or an MSP marketing tactic?

    You’re measured by what you get done, not by what you say you’re doing

    We often dream big about our business ambitions but it’s not the plans that impress people—it’s the results. In the world of MSPs, like in all business, actions speak louder than words. Whether you’re chasing new clients or aiming to hit ambitious revenue target

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    31 min
  • Episode 235: SPECIAL: How MSPs get more leads from trade shows
    May 13 2024
    Episode 235
    Welcome to a special episode of the MSP Marketing Podcast with me, Paul Green. This is THE show if you want to grow your MSP.
    In this Special Episode I’m joined by Lyle Kirshenbaum, owner of Toronto-based MSP Wired for the Future, to talk about how he has used events and trade shows to market his business and generate leads and prospects. We also discuss a number of practical ways that MSPs can level up and get the most bang for their buck and secure the most valuable leads and data from these events.
    Featured guest:

    Lyle was always involved in the technology arena as he began his career in digital print production. He found his interests lay more in the hardware side of technology though and quickly turned his sights in that direction. Originally, Lyle focused on whole home theatre systems but again saw his interests lay elsewhere. It was for this reason, that in 2001, Lyle became what is commonly known as a trunk slammer; helping and supporting clients as he traveled from site to site. Over the years, Lyle developed, fostered, and maintained these initial connections and grew Wired for the Future to the success it is today. Lyle is no longer found traveling from site to site in his car but can be found behind his desk ensuring that the same support with the same personal connection he always prided himself on remains intact. No matter how large Wired for the Future becomes it is Lyle’s dream this level of service remains. He devotes his days to just that.

    Connect with Lyle on LinkedIn:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/wired-lylekirshenbaum/ Extra show notes:
    • Listen or watch every Tuesday on your favourite podcast platform, hosted by me, Paul Green, an MSP marketing expert:
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    35 min
  • Episode 234: How to market your MSP to a vertical
    May 6 2024
    Episode 234
    Welcome to the MSP Marketing Podcast with me, Paul Green. This is THE show if you want to grow your MSP. This week’s show includes:
    • 00:00 How to market your MSP to a vertical
    • 10:14 This productivity hack will help you Get Things Done
    • 18:56 Engender happier, more productive staff
    Featured guest:

    Thank you to Dr. Kevin Gazzara, leadership coach and Senior Partner of Magna Leadership Solutions, for joining me to talk about how MSP owners can keep their staff happy, make them feel valued, and increase their productivity – without spending a penny.

    Dr. Kevin Gazzara is the Senior Partner of Magna Leadership Solutions established in 2007, and the coauthor of the acclaimed books “The Leader of OZ” and “Ready, Set, Get Hired”. He is an ICF certified coach, and a certified Positive Intelligence (PQ) Mental Fitness coach and founder of CoachSultants.com. Kevin has taught and developed Management and Leadership career-changing programs in the corporate world during his 18 years at Intel Corporation and as a University professor at 6 Universities over the last 28 years. Dr. Gazzara’s work has been recognized for his international leadership development programs by Workforce Magazine, https://magnaleader.co/LTP. Kevin’s passion is in helping individuals find the leader within themselves.

    Connect with Kevin on LinkedIn:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevingazzara/

    Extra show notes:
    • Listen or watch every Tuesday on your favourite podcast platform, hosted by me, Paul Green, an MSP marketing expert:
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    41 min
  • Episode 233: The MSP that's unstoppable
    Apr 29 2024
    Episode 233
    Welcome to the MSP Marketing Podcast with me, Paul Green. This is THE show if you want to grow your MSP. This week’s show includes:
    • 00:00 Why you need Big Mo in your business
    • 08:01 Systemize your ability to under-promise and over-deliver
    • 15:41 This expert can help you grow your MSP business
    Featured guest:

    Thank you to MSP Coach Brian Hoppe, for joining me to talk about his experience of scaling MSP businesses, and how he uses that experience to coach other MSPs in how to scale their own businesses.

    Brian has been part of the Managed Services industry since the early 2000s. He earned both his Bachelor’s and MBA from Baylor University. For over 20 years, Brian has worked in multiple MSPs and has bought and sold multiple MSPs. He’s been everything from a technician to Ops Manager to CFO to CEO. He has grown multiple MSPs to over $5 million in revenue and managed MSPs in excess of $15 million in revenue. Brian has a thorough understanding of all the ins and outs of running a highly successful MSP. But more importantly, he understands how to help MSP leaders get the most from their business. His expertise in leadership and coaching can help any MSP owner or CEO achieve the results they want in both business and life. He is passionate about finding the right clients for his coaching practice to help take their business and leadership to the next level.

    Connect with Brian on LinkedIn:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianhoppe/

    Extra show notes:
    • Listen or watch every Tuesday on your favourite podcast platform, hosted by me, Paul Green, an MSP marketing expert:
      • https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-green-msp-marketing/
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      • https://www.mspmarketingedge.com
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    32 min
  • Episode 232: Sell something small to build trust
    Apr 22 2024
    Episode 232
    Welcome to the MSP Marketing Podcast with me, Paul Green. This is THE show if you want to grow your MSP. This week’s show includes:
    • 00:00 Build trust by doing a small thing well
    • 08:04 Have you heard of Feedback Donuts?
    • 10:51 Harnessing Intent Data to convert leads into prospects
    Featured guest:

    Thank you to Paul Franklin, founder of Koala B2B, for joining me to talk about ‘intent data’, and how MSPs can track and use intent data to identify and engage warm leads at the point that they’re already interested in your services.

    Paul Franklin is founder of Koala B2B, an intent data lead gen company. Paul has overseen millions of pounds worth of lead generation campaigns across the Tech B2B division he ran as Publisher for Dennis Publishing. The division included IT end user, cloud , and MSP/CSP/Reseller audiences specifically. He also ran the UK Cloud Awards for 6 years, a recognition and celebration of all cloud innovation in the country.

    Connect with Paul on LinkedIn:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-franklin-8922236/

    Extra show notes:
    • Listen or watch every Tuesday on your favourite podcast platform, hosted by me, Paul Green, an MSP marketing expert:
      • https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-green-msp-marketing/
      • http://mspmarketingedge.com/about/
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    23 min
  • Episode 231: No-one buys MFA... they buy "sleeping better"
    Apr 15 2024
    Episode 231
    Welcome to the MSP Marketing Podcast with me, Paul Green. This is THE show if you want to grow your MSP. This week’s show includes:
    • 00:00 Don’t sell the FEATURES, sell the BENEFITS
    • 03:20 3 KILLER offers to stand out from the MSP crowd
    • 11:17 How to hire and integrate the best remote employees into your MSP
    Featured guest:

    Thank you to Michael Nelson, Co-founder of Scaled, for joining me to talk about why MSP owners should embrace remote working, how he was able to successfully integrate remote staff into his team within his own MSP business, and how he found himself perfectly positioned to help other MSPs do the same.

    Michael Nelson is a founder of Scaled, a staff-augmentation firm that deploys L2 & L3 Technical Talent for MSPs from South Africa and the owner of a successful & growth-oriented MSP in California

    He started TLC Tech, a Sacramento based MSP in 2004 serving all types of clients. In 2008 the company made the transition to fully managed services. Averaging 20-30% year over year growth, the company consistently maintains best in class EBITDA. Currently with a staff of 28, the company has transitioned to being a fully remote MSP, with 30% of the staff working remotely from South Africa.

    After recognizing the benefits and the market need, Michael started Scaled with Jason Knight (also a former MSP owner) to place L2 & L3 techs with MSPs

    Connect with Michael on LinkedIn:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelnelsonca/

    Extra show notes:
    • Listen or watch every Tuesday on your favourite podcast platform, hosted by me, Paul Green, an MSP marketing expert:
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      • http://mspmarketingedge.com/about/
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    27 min
  • Episode 230: How to attach MRR to hardware & project sales
    Apr 8 2024
    Episode 230
    Welcome to the MSP Marketing Podcast with me, Paul Green. This is THE show if you want to grow your MSP. This week’s show includes:
    • 00:00 How to attach Monthly Recurring Revenue to hardware & project sales
    • 07:33 5 quick wins to improve your net profit margin
    • 11:45 Attract your ideal clients with strategic content marketing
    Featured guest:

    Thank you to Kristi Mitchell, Founder of Marketing Uncomplicated, for joining me to talk about how MSPs can use content marketing to target and attract, nurture and convert their ideal clients.

    Kristi Mitchell is a Marketing Strategist specializing in helping service-based small business owners who have relied on referrals and word-of-mouth to build their businesses. They know in order to reach more clients with their services, they need to finally think more strategically about their marketing.

    Kristi brings an MBA, over ten years of corporate marketing experience, and a drive for continual learning to the work she does with her clients. Kristi offers 1:1 strategic consulting, fractional CMO services, workshops, and group implementation support.

    Connect with Kristi on LinkedIn:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristimitchell/

    Extra show notes:
    • Listen or watch every Tuesday on your favourite podcast platform, hosted by me, Paul Green, an MSP marketing expert:
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    34 min