Stephan Janssen, the mind behind Devoxx, calls this moment the “renaissance of development” and explains why AI-native workflows are rewriting what’s possible. On the docket:

• how vibe coding cut months of setup and build into days
• why “spec to code” loops beat pure prompting every time
• what juniors gain from a universal AI tutor
• why agents are the big theme for Devoxx Belgium 2025 AI Native Dev,

AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development.

Connect with us here:
1. Stephan Janssen - https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanjanssen/
2. Simon Maple - https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/
3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/
4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/

Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh

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What does it mean to be a developer when AI writes most of the code?

On this episode of AI Native Dev, Birgitta Böckeler, Distinguished Engineer at ThoughtWorks, joins Simon Maple to unpack how AI is changing legacy migrations, and why the real value comes from pairing LLMs with proven software engineering practices.

They also get into:
• why “AI alone” won’t solve legacy modernization
• how codemods and deterministic tools amplify AI creativity
• the reflex to rewrite vs. the discipline to refactor
• why developers need to evolve into managers of AI-driven workflows

AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk about all things AI, security, and development.

Connect with us here:
1. Birgitta Böckeler - https://www.linkedin.com/in/birgittaboeckeler/
2. Simon - https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/
3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/
4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/

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Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io

AI coding is great for demos, but can it handle production apps?

On this episode of AI Native Dev, Maor Shlomo, founder of Base44, joins Guy Podjarny to share how he built one of the first “batteries-included” AI app builders and what it reveals about building real software in the age of LLMs.

They dive into:
• why less complexity helps LLMs perform
• how Base44 ships apps with databases and integrations built in
• what smaller, high-context teams can do that big ones can’t
• the path from vibe coding to agentic applications

AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk about all things AI, security, and development.

Connect with us here:
1. Maor Shlomo - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maor-shlomo-1088b4144/
2. Guy Podjarny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/guypo/
3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/
4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/

Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjh

Ask us questions: podcast@tessl.io