Today's podcast is a really powerful chat with someone Annie has known for a long time. Siri Lindley became World Triathlon Champion whilst she was training alongside Annie. But that's just part of Siri's story.

Siri's family life was shaken as a young girl when her parents separated and she and her sister found their mother trying to commit suicide.

Siri's suffered anxiety and OCD during her life and being diagnosed with acute myeloid eukaemia left her with another harrowing time.

But she remains so positive and wanting to make a difference.

She and her wife set up Believe Ranch and Rescue to save former rodeo horse that were heading to slaughter

So much to take from this - the power of gratitude, redefining fear and looking for meaning.

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Our guest today is someone who has played sport at the highest level!

Charlie Hodgson is a former England international rugby player. He marked his debut with a national record-breaking 44 individual points...just missing out on a world record. He ended up with 38 caps. It would have been many more but he suffered from some serious injuries, including 2 ACL's, which kept him on the sidelines for long periods.

Charlie now uses his elite sport experience to support businesses and he founded rugby buddy, an academy offering mindset training and skills coaching.

He tells Annie and Josie about being brave at rugby, which at times is sink or swim. He draws on his experiences to give thoughts on life, sport and parenting...he's got 5 children! The chat moves on to dealing with pressure, the importance of breathing and taking control.

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Today's guest is Michael Caulfield who's an experienced sports psychologist with quite a story! It's a special pod for us as we all met in person at a studio in West London and the outcome is a terrific podcast.

Michael has quite a story. He developed an early love of horse racing and went on to work in a stable yard before a chance meeting saw him become Chief Executive of the Professional Jockeys Association.

After 15 years in the job he retrained as a Sports Psychologist following a conversation with champion jockey AP McCoy.

Michael calls himself a 'dustman' in his work - he takes the rubbish away from the clients he works with. He has a very authentic view of life and tries to make it simple...with a great belief in face to face communication and conversation.

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