On today's episode, host Pete Moore sits down with Cori Myka, founder of Calm Within Adult Swim, to dive into the world of adult swimming—and why it’s never too late to learn. Cori shares her personal passion for water, the (often substantial) psychological hurdles adults face when learning to swim, and how her unique Foundations of Change program helps people overcome fear and embrace aquatic confidence.

Pete and Cori explore the relatively untapped demand for adult swim instruction, discuss the mental and physical dynamics of learning new skills later in life, and offer insights for health clubs considering specialized swim programming. Whether you’re an entrepreneur, a club owner or manager that has access to a pool, or just someone eager to get more comfortable in the water, this episode delivers thoughtful advice, actionable strategies, and a refreshing perspective on aquatics for all ages.

On the untapped potential of adult swim programs, Myka states, "That's the piece that I think is an underserved, underutilized component in the swim industry. It's really because there's such a focus on children, which is great, but there are more adults out there than kids."

Key themes discussed

• Overcoming adult fear of swimming.
• The psychological aspect of learning to swim.
• Differences between adult and child swim instruction.
• Opportunities for adult swim programming in clubs.
• Creating supportive communities for adult learners.
• Market demand and pricing for adult swim lessons.

A Few Key Takeaways:

1.Half of Adults Can’t Swim—But They Can Learn: According to Cori, about 50% of adults do not know how to swim. While there’s a major focus in the industry on children’s swim lessons, the adult market is underserved and much larger than many people realize. Cori’s mission is to reach these adults and show that it’s never too late to learn.

2. Psychology and Fear Are Major Barriers for Adult Learners: For adults, fear is a significant barrier to learning how to swim—much more so than for kids. Cori’s “Foundations of Change” program is tailored to this, focusing two parts on mindset and one part on physical skills. Progress is based on how adults feel in the water, and it typically takes 20–100 hours for an adult to feel comfortable in deep water.

3. Adult Swim Programming Is Underpriced and Undervalued: There’s a big revenue opportunity for clubs willing to offer adult swim programming, especially when marketed and priced at a premium—often comparable to or higher than kids’ private lessons. These programs can utilize off-peak pool hours, making them a win for both facilities and clients.

4. Online and In-Person Learning Are Both Essential: While some instruction can be done online (breaking down the learning steps and addressing mental blocks), the kinesthetic, in-water experience is irreplaceable. Cori’s approach blends these, guiding adults step-by-step without overwhelming them, and leveraging online cohorts or local instructor training to scale the model.

5. Creating a ‘Water Culture’ Starts with Adults: For families, making swimming a regular part of life is vital to kids’ comfort in the water. Cori emphasizes that the main barrier for kids is often parents’ own fear or inexperience. Adults who learn to swim not only change their own lives—they open doors for their families and help build a culture where water safety and confidence are the norm.

Resources:

• Cori Myka: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cori-myka-62314a18
• Calm Within Adult Swim: https://adultswimlesson.com
• Orca Swim School: https://orcaswimschool.com/meet-our-staff
• Integrity Square: https://www.integritysq.com
• Prospect Wizard: https://www.theprospectwizard.com
• Promotion Vault: http://www.promotionvault.com
• HigherDose: http://www.higherdose.com

On today’s episode, Founder of Integrity Square and HALO Talks host Pete Moore sits down with longtime friend and Talent Optimizer Group founder, Tom Johnston. They dive deep into the power of talent optimization and why having the right people in the right seats is the ultimate game-changer for HALO (Health, Active Lifestyle, Outdoors) sector businesses. Tom unpacks how health clubs can move beyond traditional hiring practices, bring rigor to their people strategy, and use data-driven insights—like employee engagement surveys and behavioral assessments—to build winning, high-performing teams.

From real-world case studies with leaders like Club 16’s Trevor Linden to practical advice on boosting employee retention and preparing your business for sale, this episode is packed with actionable strategies to help club owners turn their workforce into a true differentiator. Whether you’re scaling up, planning an exit, or just want more engaged employees and less churn, you’ll get an inside look at the role of compassionate leadership and systematic talent development.

On bridging the gap between 'business strategy' and 'people strategy,' Johnston states, "Most organizations have a business strategy. They know what results they're looking to achieve, but they don't necessarily have a people strategy. There's a discipline around how we go about hiring the right people for the right role, and how we go about retaining talent."

Key themes discussed

• Importance of talent optimization in business strategy.
• Building and retaining a high-performing team.
• Role of data and surveys in employee engagement.
• Value of organizational transparency and action.
• Impact of employee retention on company valuation.
• Process of talent acquisition and onboarding.
• Significance of compassionate leadership for team success.

A few key takeaways:

1. Talent Optimization Is a Discipline, Not a Buzzword: Tom emphasizes that talent optimization goes beyond simple recruiting—it’s about aligning "business strategy" with a well-thought-out "people strategy." This means intentionally hiring, retaining, and developing employees to match organizational goals, much like building a high-performing sports team.

2. Data-Driven Approaches Improve Employee Engagement: Tom discusses using tools like the Predictive Index to survey and assess team fit, manager-employee relationships, and overall engagement. These surveys, which are anonymous and concise, provide actionable insights leaders can use to improve employee satisfaction and retention.

3. Cultural Fit and Leadership Matter Just as Much as Skills: It’s not just about a person’s resume (“the briefcase”); hiring should prioritize behavioral fit (“the head”) and passion or values alignment (“the heart.”) Compassionate leadership and a focus on psychological safety foster a winning, loyal team.

4. Optimizing Talent Directly Impacts the Bottom Line: Tom shares case studies (like Club 16) illustrating how improved organizational structure and engagement have led to multi-million dollar gains. Reducing turnover, maximizing existing payroll, and scalable talent systems translate into real, measurable financial value—especially important when positioning a company for sale.

5. Winning Cultures Are Built on Transparency and Action: Both Pete and Tom stress the need for leaders to be transparent with teams—sharing survey results, explaining the “why” behind changes, and taking meaningful action. This not only helps employees feel seen and valued, but also drives consistent improvement and business success.

Resources:

• Tom Johnston: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomassjohnston
• Talent Optimizer Group: https://www.talentoptimizergroup.com
• Club 16 Case Study: https://talentoptimizergroup.com/case-study
• Integrity Square: https://www.integritysq.com
• Prospect Wizard: https://www.theprospectwizard.com
• Promotion Vault: http://www.promotionvault.com
• HigherDose: http://www.higherdose.com