In this episode of the Mindset Matters podcast, hosts Patrick and Steffany Francey reflect on the increasing divisiveness shaping today’s world. Sparked by the death of Charlie Kirk, the conversation expands beyond the event itself into a broader exploration of perception, polarity, and personal growth in uncertain times.

Patrick and Steffany highlight how we may share the same planet yet live in completely different worlds shaped by our beliefs, perspectives, and echo chambers. They discuss the danger of silencing voices, the rise of misinformation, and the loss of healthy debate in a culture that often prioritizes outrage over understanding. Rather than focusing solely on politics, the episode asks deeper questions: How do we remain aligned with our values when surrounded by chaos? How do we find clarity and purpose when confronted by fear, anger, and division?

Steffany reflects on the courage it takes to move past lower emotional states like guilt and shame toward higher vibrations of self-awareness, love, and forgiveness. Patrick underscores the importance of returning to center by practicing self-reflection, listening without judgment, and intentionally shifting perspective. Together, they call for cultivating resilience and self-love while encouraging listeners to seek first to understand before demanding to be understood.

Ultimately, this episode offers both a sobering look at the fractures in our world and a hopeful reminder that change begins within. By clearing mental clutter, reconnecting with our truth, and choosing courage over fear, we can create space for more meaningful dialogue, stronger communities, and personal transformation.

Kelly Roach is one of the only female founders in the online space to build her company from 0 to 8 figures with 0 debt, investors, or outside funding. Kelly is a former NFL cheerleader and Fortune 500 executive turned 8-figure+ entrepreneur empowering thousands around the globe to achieve financial and lifestyle freedom through entrepreneurship.

Kelly is a multi-international best-selling author, Top 20 podcast host, and philanthropist who has been featured in major media such as ABC, NBC, Fox, and Forbes - as well as the recipient of prestigious awards such as #287 on the Inc. 5000 list, The Stevie® Awards Woman of the Year, TITAN CEO of the Year, and Inc.’s Best in Business.

In this conversation, Patrick and Kelly unpack business strategy and entrepreneurship rooted in core values, purpose, and faith. Kelly shares how her journey from climbing the corporate ladder to launching her own companies has shaped her philosophy of aligning inner work with outer business strategy. She explains why many entrepreneurs struggle when they build businesses around someone else’s values, and how true success comes from designing a model that supports both scale and our own unique life design. Acknowledging her essential foundation, Kelly shares what she feels is a faith life for us all, regardless of how we define faith. Kelly shares learned wisdom to illustrate the importance of self-leadership in today’s social media-driven world, and the discipline required to sustain long-term success. Clarity, alignment, and resilience can transform not just business, but every part of life.

In this episode of Mindset Matters, hosts Patrick and Steffany unpack a provocative question: Is coaching a scam? With more than 30 years of experience in coaching, mentoring, and performance psychology, they shed light on why coaching often fails to deliver lasting results—and what actually makes the difference.

Many people sign up for coaching programs, feel an initial burst of motivation, and then quickly lose momentum. Patrick and Steffany explore why that happens. The problem is not always the strategy or the “how to.” The real challenge lies much deeper—in our identity, values, and hidden beliefs. Using a fruit tree metaphor, they explain that actions are the fruit, but the true source of growth lies in the roots. Unless the roots—our mindset, clarity, and self-beliefs—are addressed, no amount of technical coaching will create sustainable change.

They introduce their unique approach called the MindShui Way, which blends coaching with deep inner work to help people uncover limiting beliefs, realign values, and clear the mental clutter that blocks success. It is about becoming the person capable of achieving the goals, not just learning the steps to reach them.

Steffany shares insights from her work with elite athletes, while Patrick draws on decades of experience with entrepreneurs and leaders. Together, they highlight why mentorship and identity-level growth are essential. Coaching is not a scam—it is often incomplete when it stops at the surface. True transformation comes when we look inward, face what is holding us back, and cultivate resilience from the roots up.

Whether you are an athlete, entrepreneur, or someone seeking personal growth, this episode will challenge your perspective on coaching and inspire you to dig deeper into your own roots for lasting success.

In this episode of Mindset Matters, hosts Patrick and Steffany dive into one of life’s greatest paradoxes: our search for certainty in an uncertain world. Together, they explore how fear, worry, and anxiety often arise from the human need to control the uncontrollable, and why learning to embrace uncertainty may be the key to resilience, creativity, and peace of mind.

Patrick frames uncertainty as the space between what we know and what we cannot yet see, pointing out how this gap often produces stress, decision fatigue, and even physical health challenges. Steffany adds that our brains are wired for prediction, and when outcomes are unclear, the body reacts with a threat response, flooding us with stress hormones like cortisol. This not only affects mental well-being but also impacts how we show up in our relationships, careers, and goals.

Rather than resisting uncertainty, Patrick and Steffany encourage listeners to view it as a blank canvas, a whiteboard where possibility and creativity can flourish. They emphasize that resilience is built when we stop trying to control every outcome and instead focus on what we can manage - our mindset, our responses, and our values.

Drawing on their coaching experience, they share how certainty can be borrowed and shared. When one person holds confidence and belief, it can help calm the doubts of another. This powerful dynamic not only builds trust but also reinforces that uncertainty does not have to equal fear.

Ultimately, the hosts challenge listeners to shift perspective: uncertainty is not a threat but life’s greatest constant, offering opportunities to adapt, grow, and thrive.

Dan Novaes is the CEO of Mode Mobile and creator of the EarnPhone. Mode Mobile is revolutionizing the mobile industry with its “Earn As You Go” software, enabling millions of users to turn daily smartphone habits into passive income.

Under Dan’s leadership, Mode Mobile achieved 32,481% revenue growth (2019–2022), earned the #1 spot in software on Deloitte's 2023 Technology Fast 500 List, and pioneered a fundraising model leveraging 30,000+ everyday investors. Now, they’re on a mission to reach 1 million shareholders while tackling a $1 trillion market opportunity.

In this episode Patrick sits down with entrepreneur and visionary Dan Novaes, co-founder of Mode Mobile. Dan shares how a string of early failures led to the creation of the “EarnPhone” — a platform that transforms everyday screen time into real income — and how he hyper scaled the concept from $100K to $25M in just three years.

The conversation dives into Mode Mobile’s evolving business model and ever-expanding opportunities to explore. Dan reflects on the challenges of building and restructuring teams, the importance of core values (AACCT), and the ways Mode Mobile has embedded recognition and feedback into its culture.

From his curious and opportunistic entrepreneurial beginnings to his vision of taking Mode Mobile public, Dan opens up about leadership through turbulent times, leaning on mentors, and embracing accountability at the top. He also shares innovative ways for everyday users to become shareholders, including a first-of-its-kind points-for-shares option within the app.

Packed with insights on resilience, innovation, and purpose-driven growth, this episode offers an inside look and important insights of what it takes to build a company, stay aligned with your values and bring relevant, forward-thinking solutions to a market that is ready for them!

In this special milestone episode of Mindset Matters, Patrick and Steffany celebrate their 200th conversation — four years of showing up every week to explore the thoughts that shape our lives. What began as small, incremental steps — “bricks” laid one at a time — has become something much larger: a body of work, a philosophy, and a practice that has not only shaped them but also deeply impacted their listeners.

Reflecting on this journey, they share the lessons learned through consistency, vulnerability, and growth. From navigating the divisiveness of recent years to launching new programs like Mind Shui and the Lift newsletter, Patrick and Steffany discuss how their podcast became both a record of their evolution and a platform for meaningful dialogue. They highlight the truth that clarity creates velocity, and that momentum is built one conversation, one step, at a time.

The episode dives into profound takeaways: the importance of discipline over habits, the need to embrace discomfort as a catalyst for change, and the willingness to be misunderstood as part of living authentically. Steffany reflects on overcoming resistance to change, and how dropping expectations allowed her to show up with greater creativity and presence. Patrick emphasizes how identity shapes behavior, reminding listeners that we must become the person capable of achieving our goals, rather than waiting for achievement to define us.

Together, they explore the role of hidden beliefs — like “not enough” or “unworthy” — and how these subconscious narratives can quietly sabotage growth if left unchallenged. They also reflect on the natural evolution of relationships, the resilience forged through change, and the courage required to say “no” without apology.

Ultimately, this milestone episode is less about looking back and more about looking forward. Patrick and Steffany invite listeners to join them in pushing the cart up the hill — not attached to the outcome, but committed to the journey. With gratitude, humor, and hard-won insight, they remind us that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, and that our own transformation unfolds one intentional step at a time

In this insightful episode of Mindset Matters, Patrick and Steffany unpack one of the most pervasive and rarely discussed challenges in personal and professional development: imposter syndrome. Through the powerful story of Claire, a successful architect paralyzed by self-doubt, they explore how high achievers can still feel like frauds despite overwhelming evidence of their competence.

This conversation dives into the hidden beliefs of “not enough” and “unworthiness” that often lie beneath imposter syndrome. Patrick reflects on his own journey of feeling like an imposter despite decades of business success, while Steffany shares how performance psychology has taught her — and the elite athletes she coaches — to make peace with their “inner fraud.”

Together, they reveal how imposter syndrome doesn’t just affect those who have already “made it,” but also holds back those who hesitate to start. Many people stay stuck in a cycle of needing more credentials or waiting for the perfect moment, rather than taking bold action from where they are.

They also explore the psychological tools like alter egos and avatars — inspired by athletes like Michael Jordan and performers like Beyoncé — that can help people overcome moments of self-doubt and show up fully, even under pressure. The episode highlights how comparison, judgment, and societal expectations especially around appearance and success, often intensify feelings of fraudulence — especially for women.

Ultimately, Patrick and Steffany call listeners to examine where imposter syndrome may be quietly sabotaging their growth, and how authenticity, self-reflection, and gratitude for one’s journey can collapse those limiting beliefs.

Mike Koenigs is a serial entrepreneur with five successful exits, a 19x bestselling author, and a dynamic speaker who has engaged audiences of thousands. He has contributed to Forbes, Entrepreneur, and Fast Company and served as a judge on Entrepreneur.com's "Elevator Pitch" TV show. Mike specializes in helping entrepreneurs create impactful, lifestyle-compatible businesses, guiding them in building high-ticket offers, refining messaging, and enhancing their personal brands.

With a proven track record of working with major brands like Sony, AT&T, BMW, and 3M, Mike has become a go-to expert for recently exited founders launching their "Next Act" companies. As a pioneer in teaching AI, he has shared his insights on prestigious stages, including Tony Robbins' events, MIT, and EO conferences, inspiring audiences with innovative AI systems and strategies.

In this episode of TEDM, listen to a wide-ranging conversation as Mike and Patrick dive into how artificial intelligence can transform business and personal growth, plus self-identity in our next act. Mike shares practical frameworks like the MAC method and 6Ms, revealing how AI can save time, accelerate trust, enhance team capabilities, and open new revenue streams without replacing all human talent. The discussion spans AI adoption challenges, multiple-platform strategies, and the mindset shifts needed to fully harness its potential. Beyond tech, Mike reflects on his personal journey—from accelerated learning and overcoming cancer to building purpose-driven teams and designing an international lifestyle business with meaningful collaboration at the core of his purpose. With stories, stage tips, and deeply personal insights, Mike and Patrick explore what it takes to align values with vision, stay authentic, and leverage both technology and life experience for maximum impact.

Additional links provided by Mike for TEDM viewers and listeners:

Referral Party: https://www.mikekoenigs.com/TEMRPP

Your Next Act: https://www.mikekoenigs.com/TEMYNAp

Punch the Elephant: https://www.mikekoenigs.com/TEMPunchp

Ai Accelerator: https://www.mikekoenigs.com/TEMAipod