Nick welcomes you to the podcast and explains who we will interview, when we will release a new episode, how long they will be and why he is doing this.

"I'm really stoked to be at the forefront of sharing wave pool news and views from many of the global players in the surf lagoon industry. It's a fascinating alternative property development to traditional golf courses and there are so many big issues to discuss. In the words of the WSL CEO, surfing is now at a major inflection point. Why? Due to the proliferation of cool surf images on social media, inclusion of surfing in the 2020 Olympic Games and because of the rise of the machine driven wave pool.

I really hope you enjoy all the hard work Bryan, myself and our team are putting into this."

Thanks,

Nick

Algarve, Portugal September 2019

Welcome to our first episode! We start with Bryan Dickerson who founded www.wavepoolmag.com in 2018 and has experienced rapid growth on the platform. During the half-hour chat we learn about Bryan's surf journalism background and how he created the site. We talk about the state and history of the surf industry and how the "wave pool space" came about. It's a pretty big business right now with a lot of money being spent on many projects around the world.

We hope you enjoy the idea of the podcast!

Andy Ainscough relates the story of how Adventure Park Snowdonia (originally launched in 2015 as Surf Snowdonia) was conceived, built and run. Many pitfalls lurk in a wave pool developers timeline and Andy was lucky enough to overcome them all and now surfs regularly in his creation. The beauty of it is, tons of surfers join him every day in this rustic Welsh valley. It's an iconic place to surf, I know its definitely on my list.

Find out how the Surf lakes technology was born from the founder himself. Aaron Trevis talks candidly of how the idea came to him, how he pulled a team of incredible people together and built a wave wonderland in Yeppoon, Australia.

Looking at the explosive wheezing of a mad max style contraption may appear intriguing but when perfect waves barrel out onto the five reefs, one is hooked! There is a heap of sheer determination that has been ploughed into this project, we uncover it all in this episode.

Hey guys, it's Nick coming to you from a warm and autumnal Algarve in Portugal. The swell is picking up down here and I managed a great session where these glassy beauties where peeling off a hard sand spit. Stoked again after along break! The other day I called up Australia and got to chat to Andrew Ross. It was a great conversation, not just because he's such a down to earth relaxed professional but because he's opening one of the first two Wavegarden Cove's in the world. It's quite tense watching both Bristol and Melbourne (as I do), releasing tidbits about the boxes they're ticking and the milestones they're hitting and gliding by. It certainly isn't always smooth sailing but lets dig deep into Andrew Ross' life and find out how URBNSURF came to be.

“Wavegarden”, the sound of that name evokes a zen-like space where waves roll endlessly through green spaces pulsing with lush natural life. As if you didn’t know, it’s actually a company created way back in 2005, that sits deep in a northern Spanish valley. It’s a richly forested and abundant area ravaged by harsh Atlantic winters and pounded by massive waves during the cold, rainy months. It is from this secret hideaway that Sean Young chats to us all about the history of Wavegarden, how he came to join the exclusive firm and how they came to be operating in all four corners of the planet.

We interview Tim Curry, known as TC, who is setting out on the arduous venture to create an oasis of surf in the parched desert surrounding Las Vegas. I am sure the Las Vegas population will be STOKED to hear this and the millions of visitors to the city will be able to practice their cutbacks alongside the locals.

Many of you out there may be dreaming about creating your own wave pool in your area. Hopefully, this relaxed chat with TC will put it into perspective for you and feed you with a few insights. If you're unsure of where to start on your journey get in touch with Wave Pool Mag. We'll be able to help you out.

• Growing up in Newport / Huntington Beach and Vooli.
• TC jetted into Vegas in 2004 - he tells us why...
• Land acquisition, rezoning and the "Fun Agents".
• How TC first heard about wave pools - we talk about Kelly Slater's original video which is fast becoming the starting point for many people's interest in the wave pool space.
• TC explains his concept of a beach in Las Vegas and we discuss the appeal of surfing to aspirational surfers.
• How TC fully realized that he wanted to create a beach in Las Vegas with surfable waves and the current lack of opportunity in the city.
• What stage he is at with "The Beach Las Vegas".
• We go off on a tangent about wave pool competitions and compare them to skateboarding.
• Going public with the project and not being fearful of public lash back, like in France in mid-2019.
• Procuring the land for "The Beach Las Vegas" and discussing various elements like Crystal Lagoons, dog beaches and the challenges of setting up such a large development. We chat about the 3D renderings from the SURFLAND project in Brazil and Sheraton's history in wave pools with their project at Oceandome in Japan.
• What's the process when you're engaging ambassadors in the business?
• What's the timeline for the Las Vegas beach? 3 years...
• Why surf is growing so radically at the moment and what will the effect of wave pools actually be?
• We compare skateboarding, wakeboarding, flow riding and snowboarding to surfing in a pool.
• We talk about residential development on the beach at Las Vegas.

Has Greg Webber been at this game longer than anyone else? Maybe not, but he sure has a ton of fascinating insights and excellent ideas surrounding the wave pool space. You can check him out on www.webberwavepools.com Before we kicked off the interview Greg inferred to me that he had no problem in my drilling him about the fact that he essentially broadcasts the fact that his wave pools are the best in the world but none have been built. Well, hold your horses, hopefully, a Webber wave pool is taking shape in Orlando, Florida right now and a V-reef is under development near Perth, Australia.

• We kick off with some light banter about girls and waves.
• Smacking into a German near Currumbin, Australia at 10 years of age.
• Right-hand rip banks at Bondi on a coolite surfboard.
• Dead friends and absence of control when he was a kid and surfing at South Head, Sydney.
• Surf trips to Bali, Hawaii and getting Malaria in Indonesia.
• 11:30 Webber Wave Pools
• Thinking about wave machines and a video from a U.S. University kicked off the idea of getting a patent for his creations.
• Greg talks about patents and patent law and hints at his tussle with Kelly Slater.
• Webber Wave Pool's three different wave solutions: wave system, v-reef, v-wall.
• Greg quickly mentions Penrith Wave Pool.
• Ocean Sports Development (Anthony Brown) is discussed in more detail. They have three projects, one of which is in Orlando, Florida hopefully breaking ground in January 2020.
• 40 wave pools from all wave tech makers by 2025.
• He talks about conical tubes and the foam ball itself.
• Cheaper wave pools will make them much more accessible and expand the sport a lot more.
• Webber wave pools create a Kelvin wake similar to the wave behind a boat.
• V-Reefs at Triggs Beach near Perth, Australia and the benefits of V-reefs.
• An aside about Beach Grit and the state of modern surf journalism. We mention Nick Carrols "New Sarcasm" article.
• Back to V-reefs and how they fit into the bigger picture of floating cities which is a real thing. Check out what the United Nations says about it. Oceanix is spearheading the drive.
• The profit involved for developers in V-reefs and how they impact the property price of beachfront developments.
• An oversupply of waves...
• Greg mentions Tom Blake