Standing at the intersection of farming and recovery, Andy Rosbach embodies quiet resilience. As a fourth-generation hay farmer tending the same Ellensburg land his Danish great-grandfather claimed in 1894, Andy's roots run deeper than most. But beneath this rich agricultural heritage lies a powerful recovery story that transformed not just his life, but his relationship with the land itself.

"When I'm using, that's all I'm thinking about. I cannot do anything else," Andy reflects, describing his journey to 17 years clean after battling addiction that once threatened everything. His candid account reveals how recovery principles revolutionized his approach to farming's inherent challenges – from unpredictable weather to economic pressures. Where once he might have fixated on problems, he now cultivates gratitude: "I try to live my life 90% grateful and 10% worried about the problems."

The conversation weaves through varied territory as Andy describes how motorcycling became therapeutic meditation. "There's something about being on the bike that quiets the brain," he explains. "I was trying to do with drugs what riding now does without the negative side effects." These rides – often shared with friends in recovery – create a unique brotherhood that transcends words. The parallel between the freedom of the open road and the liberation of recovery becomes beautifully apparent.

Perhaps most inspiring is Andy's message for those still struggling: whatever you think impossible is likely within reach. "If you're miserable in your life and say 'I'm done with this' and start today, a year from now you can be somewhere completely different." This wisdom extends beyond addiction to anyone seeking meaningful change. The key lies in developing a plan, doing the work, and persisting through setbacks – a farming philosophy that translates perfectly to personal growth.

Join us for this authentic conversation about heritage, healing, and how recovery principles can transform even the most challenging aspects of life. Whether you're facing your own struggles or simply curious about how different worlds intersect, Andy's story offers practical wisdom cultivated from both the soil and the soul.

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What happens when a driven business owner finally confronts the question: "Why am I drinking a fifth of vodka every day when I have a great business, a great wife, and a great kid?" In this candid conversation, third-generation business owner Kori Winegar takes us through his remarkable journey from dairy farm to coffee shop empire to sobriety.

Kori shares the fascinating evolution of his family business, which began in 1956 as one of Ellensburg's 100 dairy farms. Working alongside his grandfather from age eight, he learned the relentless work ethic of 365-day-a-year farming before the family pivoted to coffee shops and ice cream production. The transition wasn't just business—it was personal too, as Corey eventually had to confront his growing dependence on alcohol.

The heart of this episode explores Kori's unconventional path to quitting alcohol. For four months, he secretly participated in a program before telling his wife, battling shame and questioning his identity. Rather than adopting traditional recovery language or frameworks, Kori forged his own understanding—rejecting labels like "alcoholic" and embracing personal accountability. "I'm not afraid of alcohol," he explains. "I just don't need it anymore."

Six and a half years later, Kori reflects on the profound changes in his life—greater patience, deeper presence with his family, and a newfound confidence. His advice to listeners questioning their own relationship with substances is powerfully simple: "If you're questioning it, stop questioning and start answering." His story reminds us that freedom comes not from fighting constant battles against our demons, but from understanding why we needed those substances in the first place.

Ready to explore your own relationship with alcohol or other substances? This episode offers wisdom without judgment, hope without platitudes, and practical insights from someone who's walked the path. Subscribe now and join the conversation about authentic living, personal growth, and finding freedom from what no longer serves you.

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What happens when an artist decides to cancel his "Blacking Out Downtown Show" for good? In this deeply authentic conversation, local Ellensburg artist Jason Clifton marks six months of sobriety by sharing the unexpected freedom he's discovered in living alcohol-free.

From his roots as a California skateboarder who found his way to the Pacific Northwest in 1990, Jason takes us through his evolution as an artist, musician, and community fixture. His unique artistic approach combines street art techniques with fine art sensibilities, resulting in distinctive works created through hand-cut stencils and spray paint. Having painted eleven murals throughout Ellensburg and run various skateboard shops over the years, Jason's creative presence has been woven into the fabric of the community for decades.

The heart of this conversation explores how Jason's relationship with sobriety has transformed his experience of life and art. Rather than viewing sobriety as restrictive, he describes it as a "superpower" that allows him to move through social spaces with newfound freedom and lightness. A pivotal DMT experience helped him recognize how he carried the weight of others' perceived judgments—a realization that eventually extended to understanding how alcohol similarly controlled aspects of his life. Most compelling is Jason's observation that when we fill our lives with purpose—whether through creative expression, skateboarding, or meaningful relationships—substances naturally lose their appeal.

For anyone questioning their relationship with alcohol or seeking deeper understanding about recovery, this conversation offers a refreshing perspective that goes beyond conventional narratives. It's not about fighting against substances but about reclaiming agency and allowing awareness to become the pilot instead of letting the body run the show. As Jason puts it, "I just gave up on believing and I just operate on what I know to be true."

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Radical responsibility involves accepting your current life situation without judgment and taking ownership of your power to make changes. This transformative approach helps you break free from shame and victim mentality while recognizing your capacity for growth and resilience.

• Understanding radical acceptance means acknowledging your current situation without judgment
• Taking ownership without blame creates empowerment rather than shame
• Moving beyond victim mindset by healing past trauma without letting it define you
• Recognizing that even during difficult times, you developed valuable skills
• Consistency in positive action dramatically increases chances of success
• Seeking support from others while taking responsibility for your own journey
• Forgiving others and yourself as a pathway to personal freedom
• Living by "do the work, be consistent, expect great things"
• Recognizing that life is a "do-it-yourself thing" but help is available
• Taking those crucial first steps that no one else can take for you

The mission of my life is for you to see that you have it within you right now to do amazing things.

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Rejection and setbacks are inevitable parts of any meaningful journey, but they don't have to derail your progress. Drawing from personal experience as a former felon who overcame addiction and depression to become a respected professor, I share how embracing rejection transformed my life and can change yours too.

The core message is refreshingly simple yet powerful: "I've heard 'no' more than I've heard 'yes,' but I don't let it stop me." This mindset shift creates what I call the "grit advantage" – the resilience that propels you forward when others give up. I explain why receiving anything other than a hard "no" means you're already halfway to success, and how to use this perspective to maintain momentum toward your goals.

Through stories from my hometown of Tacoma (nicknamed "Grit City") and my experiences mentoring college students, I reveal why employers consistently choose candidates with positive attitudes over those with superior technical skills. This insight is crucial for anyone navigating their career path: effort and perseverance matter more than natural ability in the long run.

The most practical section covers how to build your own grit through specific strategies: establishing a consistent morning routine (which pulled me out of depression), taking small daily actions, practicing delayed gratification, reflecting on progress, and celebrating incremental wins. I share how these techniques helped me complete my doctorate even after quitting multiple times, and how a simple "Don't quit" note from a colleague kept me going.

Take a moment to reflect on your own grit journey. What obstacles have you already overcome? You're likely more resilient than you realize. Try journaling about these experiences to recognize your inner strength and prepare for whatever challenges lie ahead.

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What legacy are we leaving for our children? In this deeply personal episode, I open up about my chaotic childhood marked by neglect, abuse, and a revolving door of father figures – sharing the picture of myself as a small boy that now sits in my empty guest chair. Drawing from my experiences as both a victim of generational trauma and someone who's worked to break those cycles, I explore how our earliest experiences shape our approaches to parenting and relationships.

Children are always watching, always absorbing. They become mirrors reflecting what we show them through our actions and responses. The painful truth is that patterns of dysfunction repeat themselves unless we consciously intervene. Through my journey of addiction, failed relationships, and ultimately healing, I've discovered that transformation is possible at any stage of life.

This conversation isn't about shame or blame but about possibility. No child dreams of becoming a poor parent – these patterns emerge from adaptations to our own childhood circumstances. By extending compassion to our inner child while making consistent, intentional choices for our children, we create ripples that extend far beyond our immediate family.

What are you doing today that your child will thank you for tomorrow? What cycle from your past are you committed to breaking? The work of healing while raising the next generation isn't easy, but it may be the most important work of our lives. Start with something small this week – one meaningful way you can show up more consistently for a child in your life – and watch how these small shifts create powerful change over time.

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In this heartfelt conversation, Dr. David Douglas interviews his wife Katrina Douglas about their journey together, her passion for preschool education, and the wisdom she's gained through 26 years of recovery.

• David and Katrina met in 2001 and were friends for nearly a decade before becoming life partners
• Their relationship is built on teamwork, fun, and happiness
• Katrina owns and operates Sunflower Preschool, where she prioritizes social-emotional learning before academics
• She believes children need to develop self-regulation, communication skills, and problem-solving abilities before they can effectively learn academically
• Katrina created a "parent huddle" group to help parents support each other and realize they're not alone in their parenting journey
• Her teaching philosophy focuses on building confidence and independence in children
• Maintaining recovery requires daily self-care including exercise, yoga, social connections, and personal time
• Learning to be gentle with herself has been key to Katrina's personal growth
• Final words of wisdom: "Be yourself. It is okay to be who you are."

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"Just keep going." These three simple words carry profound weight in Sarah Cannon's world, whether she's pushing through mile 34 of a 50-mile ultramarathon or reflecting on her journey from substance abuse to recovery.

In this raw and hopeful conversation, Dr. D sits down with his longtime friend Sarah to explore the remarkable transformation they've both undergone since their shared days of active addiction in 2006. Back then, they were staying up for days, making impulsive decisions like stealing motorhomes at dawn, and inventing "lighter leashes" for their drug paraphernalia. Today, Sarah has completed her first 50-mile ultramarathon—an achievement reached by less than 1% of the population—while maintaining her 23-year career as what might be the county's longest-serving barista.

What makes this story so powerful isn't just the dramatic before-and-after contrast, but the revelation that the same qualities that once fueled their addictions—dedication, persistence, and single-minded focus—have become their greatest strengths in recovery. "We gave our all to active use," Dr. D reflects, "and you can just flip that script and use it in the same way in recovery."

Sarah's ultramarathon journey serves as the perfect metaphor for recovery itself. She logged an astonishing 1,270 training miles since February to prepare for her 50-miler, demonstrating how seemingly impossible goals become achievable through consistent, incremental progress. For Sarah, running provides not just physical benefits but mental clarity: "Most of the time when I run, my head is quiet, which is wonderful." This meditative state offers the same peace that substances once falsely promised.

When asked what advice she'd give someone struggling in a dark place, Sarah doesn't hesitate: "Just put your shoes on and go out the door and see what happens." This philosophy—taking the next small step forward even when the end goal seems impossible—has carried her through both recovery and ultramarathons alike. "Even if it's a crappy run, when you're done, you still feel better because you did something."

Join us for this compelling conversation about transformation, perseverance, and finding purpose in the journey. Whether you're in recovery, supporting someone who is, or simply seeking inspiration to overcome your own challenges, Sarah's story reminds us that our darkest traits can become our greatest strengths when channeled in the right direction.

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