Joe and Amy welcome back Sean Paul Mahoney, writer, recovery advocate and program manager for the Mental Health and Addiction Association of Oregon to talk about people addicted to fentanyl, why methadone is a better alternative than Suboxone for fentanyl users, relapses and death among recovery workers and the overlooked rise in alcohol deaths.

Joe and Amy chat with  Lt. Jeff Gauthier of the Milwaukee Fire Department, sober for 28 years. He talks to us about the mental health crisis and substance abuse among firefighters as well as his work in the Peer Support Team, breaking the stigma and shame and getting them the help they need. We also discuss his work with MORI, the Milwaukee Overdose Response Initiative and the frustrating cycle he sees but also the unique position he’s in as a person in recovery to elicit empathy in his fellow firefighters and connect with the people he goes to revive. Visit our sponsor for 20% off Clean Cause 

Joe and Amy talk with Kevin F., who got clean from heroin 11 years ago by taking ibogaine. After a few years in traditional 12 step groups, feeling alienated by his ibogaine experience and continued interest in psychedelics, he formed “Psychedelics in Recovery”, a growing 12 step fellowship composed of people utilizing psychedelics as a recovery integration tool.  We ask him if psychedelics and 12 step really can co-exist, what his group considers “sobriety” and why people gloss over Bill Wilson’s own use of psychedelics. Visit our sponsor for 20% off Clean Cause